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Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:00 pm
by aceonbass
Not that much. It needs about $1500.00 worth of work and about another $1500.00 worth of VERY hard to find parts. As with any restoration, you can't just subtract the cost to complete it from the finished value. Otherwise there'd be no money to be made in a restoration, regardless of whether you keep it or not.

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:42 pm
by 7CardStud
Just another tidbit, my buddy just told me the pots check out as 1967 date code.

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:25 pm
by walker
Awesome grab, Mike! Couldn't have been snagged by a better candidate. Tres cool that you've already got the restoration process under way.

I agree with Paul Yan! You owe the girl a set of bass strings - with a new bass attached!

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:30 pm
by walker
More for what it's worth stuff - my '68 4001 MG has the same routing coming off the neck pickup cavity, and also has a horseshoe pickup. Every stock '68 4001 I've seen has a horseshoe pickup, so it would definitely behoove you to keep your eyes peeled for one.

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:47 am
by 7CardStud
Rookie error. Lol

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:58 am
by cjj
7CardStud wrote:Henry5, I'm trying to respond to your PM but it does not seem to be going through.
Just a note on PM behavior, they will sit in your outbox until the recipient reads them...

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:19 pm
by henry5
Hi Mike, got it, thanks.

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:13 am
by wints
Rather late here, but....

No question, a genuine bass. Refinished, (but still looking good :wink:...it could have been JG :lol: ) early 70's bobbin installed, and, as mentioned, the bridge issues. Good to see the stock TRC, tuners, pots, and wiring are intact though. Those rods have taken the usual beating that we usually see, and may need to be pulled and straightened out eventually, but what a great find. You don't see many Deluxe's from this year either...

"Every stock '68 4001 I've seen has a horseshoe pickup..."

Mark..How could you! :lol:
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... lebrity%3D

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:34 pm
by walker
wints wrote:Mark..How could you!
hmmm... Are you sure it's stock?

I keed! I keed!

Well, sir - that will be the first '68 I've seen sans horseshoe pickup. I notice it's a December bass. RIC must have started phasing out the HS around that time. I thought this was your bass, Andy, but I see that it's in the UK. ?????

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:00 pm
by wints
Mark,

The 68 is still here with me in Fla. Some have flown back with me over the years, but the majority reside here most of the time these days.

IIRC the Dec 68 is the first bass that has the hi-gain that we know is 100% stock, although I remember a MG 4000 from Nov 68 that had one as well. As discussed here before, anytime from late fall '68 on, a bass may have the hi gain, but, as ever, YMMV. Case in point, my old Feb 69 4001 had a horseshoe, whilst Teeder's 4000, one serial before it, had the hi gain!

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:04 pm
by walker
Right? Sort of like the phasing out of the full-width inlays and CB binding between 72-73... there was that overlap of some basses dated later still having the early goodies, while some with later serials had the newer smaller fins and straight white binding.

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:19 pm
by 7CardStud
Hey, I think my thread is being taken to Cuba...LOL

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:20 pm
by wints
7CardStud wrote:Hey, I think my thread is being taken to Cuba...LOL
Well, maybe Florida Mike! :lol:

OK...Now back to your regular program.... :D

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:14 pm
by 7CardStud
wints wrote:
7CardStud wrote:Hey, I think my thread is being taken to Cuba...LOL
Well, maybe Florida Mike! :lol:

OK...Now back to your regular program.... :D
LOL, Florida is good too...2 Landsharks on the beach please :lol:

Re: Need help dating my New Rickenbacker 4001

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:22 am
by walker
Florida's all the further you would get with the no import/export laws in Cuba imposed since the 1950s. A Rickenbacker would indeed be a rare find there!

By the way, I mistyped my earlier statement about the 72-73 transitional period. For clarity's sake:

"There was that overlap of some basses dated later into '73 still having the early goodies, while some with older serials (late '72) had the newer smaller fins and straight white binding."