Ric Undergoes Major Mod

[Grey]

Purist, anyone?

It's almost comedy gold...

You know, it's possible to have a deep appretiation for Rickenbacker and at the same time respect other peoples choices to do what they want with their guitars. He sounds like someone who obviously has his own opinions but has enough character not to try and force them onto someone else.

[johnnysain]

Why would he want to "force" anything when it's apparently more fun to join in with the insults?

[wim]

Since this is a forum where people that like Rickenbackers gather, I think it's kind of normal to receive some dissaproving comments on mods like this.
It's not the 'I want my Rick to sound like a Fender' forum, is it?
Personally I don't like this mod aestethically, I'm curiuos though how it sounds with the new pu positions, because it's difficult getting a Rick to sound different.
With that in mind, I give it a huge chance that he's going to be not completely happy with it, and'll try to sell it.
I was taught to respect everything I work hard for, so I feel a bit worried for resale values of expensive gear.
You have to blame my parents for that. I will not.
That said, I think anyone on a forum is entitled to express his or her opinion on a subject, no matter if it is positive or negative.
That is called freedom of speech, and is mostly disliked by people who want to force their opinion onto others IMHO.

[Grey]

That said, I think anyone on a forum is entitled to express his or her opinion on a subject, no matter if it is positive or negative.
That is called freedom of speech, and is mostly disliked by people who want to force their opinion onto others IMHO.

I am all for free speech, the only thing I want is for people to stay open minded and not trash the guy just because he modded his Rickenbacker. I have no problem hearing conflicting opinions when they're well thought-out. Also, my origional comment wasen't so much directed here, since it's been largely civil here, but was a generalization based on what i've seen in all 3 threads on this guitar.

[Tarrbot]

That said, I think anyone on a forum is entitled to express his or her opinion on a subject, no matter if it is positive or negative.
That is called freedom of speech, and is mostly disliked by people who want to force their opinion onto others IMHO.

I am all for free speech, the only thing I want is for people to stay open minded and not trash the guy just because he modded his Rickenbacker. I have no problem hearing conflicting opinions when they're well thought-out. Also, my origional comment wasen't so much directed here, since it's been largely civil here, but was a generalization based on what i've seen in all 3 threads on this guitar.

But in all fairness, there hasn't been too much trashing of the guy, IMO in any of the threads on any of the forums.

There has been more trashing toward the RRF and Rickenbacker and these elusive "purists" than there has towards the guy who modded his Rick..

Is that so fair?

[wim]

I dare to even suggest a different pickguard for this modded bass.
The one in the picture appeared on e-bay not so long ago, and looks just perfect to me for an S bass.

[nattiep]

There has been more trashing toward the RRF and Rickenbacker and these elusive "purists" than there has towards the guy who modded his Rick.

That's because whenever anyone mods any Rick in any way someone from the RRF or the corporate forum complains.

[rickenbrother]

There has been more trashing toward the RRF and Rickenbacker and these elusive "purists" than there has toward the guy who modded his Rick.

This is true. How the insults that are aimed at the purists, the RRF or anyone who's favorite instruments happen to be be made by RIC are absolutely fine? I didn't read all the posts on the forum that this originated from, but I really don't see much in the way of trashing the guy who modded his Rick on this forum.

[Tarrbot]

There has been more trashing toward the RRF and Rickenbacker and these elusive "purists" than there has towards the guy who modded his Rick.

That's because whenever anyone mods any Rick in any way someone from the RRF or the corporate forum complains.

Blanket statement much?

Dane mods his quite well and no one complains. In fact, many admire the mods he does.

I know I admire his mods beyond measure.

I think you as well as others perceive comments as complaints and don't give any measure of consideration that they are just comments.

It's not like everyone is dogpiling the guy.

In fact, the reverse is more true. Everyone seems to be dogpiling RRF and Rickenbacker... and me for trying to maintain civility when there is no fairness in the counterpoints by "your side".

I had some respect for some members over at the forum this started at and because of this, I've lost most of that respect due one of the guys there almost always trashing the RRF. I had known he hadn't liked RRF but after this episode I've become acutely aware that his white whale is the RRF and he'll hunt for the whale until his dying breath.

Why did this happen? Likely due to history and specifically because some folks can't let anything go. This is not a huge issue here. The counterpoints and animosity toward the RRF and Rickenbacker is just disproportionate to the comments that have been used.

It's very likely that this is a hypersensitive topic and everyone who's commented "in the extreme" (myself included) is commenting on perceived meanings and not on actual intentions.

God save us all from our own stupidity at times...

[wim]

God save us all from our own stupidity at times...

Sorry, no requests

and now for the most important issue; the sound.
check his video on youtube (link removed)

it doesn't sound much different to my 4001 to be honest. So that's a good thing
The sound is a little 'tighter' on the neck pu, the combination of both pu's is almost the same.
I modded my 4001 too btw, took some kOhms of coilwire out of it

[scott_s]

Sheesh, it's one bass guitar out of many, and we're debating freedom of speech?

Bumping my question:

...but is there anything to this mod that isn't reversible (or at least cover-up-able)?

If a legit pickguard and stock pickup assembly could be put on this bass without any new screw holes or routes showing, I think we shouldn't get so hot and bothered over this.

- Scott

[wim]

Sheesh, it's one bass guitar out of many, and we're debating freedom of speech?

are we? where?

Bumping my question:

...but is there anything to this mod that isn't reversible (or at least cover-up-able)?

If a legit pickguard and stock pickup assembly could be put on this bass without any new screw holes or routes showing, I think we shouldn't get so hot and bothered over this.

- Scott

It's probably not possible anymore, look at the position of the bridge pu.

[hdracer]

There has been more trashing toward the RRF and Rickenbacker and these elusive "purists" than there has towards the guy who modded his Rick.

That's because whenever anyone mods any Rick in any way someone from the RRF or the corporate forum complains.

Blanket statement much?

Dane mods his quite well and no one complains. In fact, many admire the mods he does.

I know I admire his mods beyond measure.

I think you as well as others perceive comments as complaints and don't give any measure of consideration that they are just comments.

It's not like everyone is dogpiling the guy.

In fact, the reverse is more true. Everyone seems to be dogpiling RRF and Rickenbacker... and me for trying to maintain civility when there is no fairness in the counterpoints by "your side".

I had some respect for some members over at the forum this started at and because of this, I've lost most of that respect due one of the guys there almost always trashing the RRF. I had known he hadn't liked RRF but after this episode I've become acutely aware that his white whale is the RRF and he'll hunt for the whale until his dying breath.

Why did this happen? Likely due to history and specifically because some folks can't let anything go. This is not a huge issue here. The counterpoints and animosity toward the RRF and Rickenbacker is just disproportionate to the comments that have been used.

It's very likely that this is a hypersensitive topic and everyone who's commented "in the extreme" (myself included) is commenting on perceived meanings and not on actual intentions.

God save us all from our own stupidity at times...

You are so right. I have not seen that much real flaming on the guy. But anyone who just says I don't think it is a good idea is flamed on and called a hater. He brought so much of this on himself. Read his list of reasons why he did it. He listed, To upset Ric owners. He can do what ever he wants to with his bass, but when you put it out on a open forum and say one of the reasons you are doing it is to upset people. I look at it as just a very expensive troll thread.

[cassius987]

I dare to even suggest a different pickguard for this modded bass.
The one in the picture appeared on e-bay not so long ago, and looks just perfect to me for an S bass.

That reminds me of the pickguard on my 4001FL, I agree his bass would benefit from one more like this:

I think you as well as others perceive comments as complaints and don't give any measure of consideration that they are just comments.

Other than how just a couple of particular posters (I won't say on what forum) have reacted to the mods, I totally agree with this--pretty much everyone has just been weighing in their opinions, not trashing the ethics of the Scratch Jenkins/J Hud individual. And those that I do take issue with for the most part didn't do that either, I just think they weren't very tasteful. Everyone has a right to weigh in on this when the guy posts it for all to see.

[12stringbassist]

He's bought and paid for the bass.
If he wants to do anything to it, to get what he wants from it, why not?