Id'ing these Schaller bass tuners

[Tarrbot]

I did come across a note I sent myself in my e-mail.

Obviously we are looking for M4 tuners (black for myself personally).

It seems Schaller made these for several manufacturers with the screw on the side (what I call non-drop screw).
http://alembic.com/club/messages/394/65 ... 1243859737

The note I made myself was about the M5B-2000 tuners. Their drop screw position was listed as being a J variant... or J Bracket. I want to say I saw something with a different bracket designation but still can't find that anywhere.

[Tarrbot]

Eureka!!!

http://bass-machine-heads.com/hp246105/ ... b5a116Xa82

M4-2000 J

This is the designation for the housing, obviously. I didn't look at the dimensions of the post.

Now for black... M4BC-2000 looks like...15324-1 Their designations are truly atrocious, if you ask me. It says J for the 90° description but in the actual version number it has no mention of J.

Anyway, there's some stuff to decipher...

And my M5B-2000 number made sense now because I was looking for a set for the 4003S/5.

[aceonbass]

The Schaller M2000's are the tuners RIC should be putting on 4004's. 20:1 is WAY better than 12:1. Those tuners are the first thing to come off of EVERY 4004 I've ever owned. The M2000's are hard to find though.