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Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:44 pm
by jps
I bought it; to take care of the binding rot and splits in the body wood I plan to do something like this to it.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:00 pm
by Kopfjaeger
Jeff,
Hmm, well that will do it!! Pretty interesting although what ever warranty that may be left on it will most definitely be voided by that procedure!
Sepp
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:04 pm
by marc61
FabGearHead wrote:
I believe that instruments not stored continuously in their cases have less problems due to the fumes not saturating the air inside the case. While this may not be the complete answer to the issue being discussed, I hope it is helpful info.
Jim
This is interesting. I had a Gluglo at one time and my memory of it was that besides the Gluglo and binding issues so much of the bass seemed absolute mint. In fact I took the TRC off and pickguard and believe that no one ever took out those screws before. Sounds like with mine something happened with it being stored under a bed or in a closet for many years.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:14 pm
by jps
marc61 wrote:I had a Gluglo at one time...
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:27 am
by marc61
Great shot Jeff. That be her.
The Gluglo really didn't bother me. Had it not been for hard times I don't think I would have sold it. Played perfect and had excellent tone with no adjustments necessary.
Oh my and to see my SG project behind it. I hope whoever has that one is loving it to death
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:03 pm
by johnallg
marc61 wrote:FabGearHead wrote:
I believe that instruments not stored continuously in their cases have less problems due to the fumes not saturating the air inside the case. While this may not be the complete answer to the issue being discussed, I hope it is helpful info.
Jim
This is interesting. I had a Gluglo at one time and my memory of it was that besides the Gluglo and binding issues so much of the bass seemed absolute mint. In fact I took the TRC off and pickguard and believe that no one ever took out those screws before. Sounds like with mine something happened with it being stored under a bed or in a closet for many years.
My theory is they had a binding employee at the time that used a different way of gluing on the binding and we are seeing the results with time. He may even have thrown in CB along with the white scraps to be dissolved to use as the gluing agent. Yeah, just my thoughts on this.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:11 am
by teeder
Did he only work on mapleglo's?
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:42 pm
by jps
teeder wrote:Did he only work on mapleglo's?
He was a blond!
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:59 am
by teeder
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:57 am
by glking14
It seems that only 1971 models were affected and a few 1972, were there any other years affected by this process.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:41 am
by rickaddict
johnallg wrote:
My theory is they had a binding employee at the time that used a different way of gluing on the binding and we are seeing the results with time. He may even have thrown in CB along with the white scraps to be dissolved to use as the gluing agent. Yeah, just my thoughts on this.
Spot on, John! (Yes...I'm a poet!)
I've seen this binding stain phenomenon at least 5 times over the years, and here's what a well-known former RIC employee (who was working there at the time this bass was built) has said about it:
"The stain was caused from straight acetone being used to adhere the binding when the Bass was built in 1972."
See also:
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:22 pm
by chefothefuture
glking14 wrote:It seems that only 1971 models were affected and a few 1972, were there any other years affected by this process.
It goes back as far as 1969.
It's odd that it seems limited to Mapleglo.
The only FG I've seen with binding rot did not have
the staining.
All of my FGs from that time frame seem to be holding
up.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:26 pm
by teeder
I haven't seen a FG from that period with the staining.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:11 pm
by chefothefuture
teeder wrote:I haven't seen a FG from that period with the staining.
I wonder if a component in the color coat had a stabilizing
effect.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:30 am
by teeder
Maybe it was the finishing process? Fireglo's received a wood sealer before the binding went on, but MG's didn't?
We may never know.
