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Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:05 am
by Baz Cooper
I just got the cat to throw in a set of Lulls in the trade to use in one of my other bass builds.

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:45 am
by chefothefuture
Baz Cooper wrote:Yes, But didn't they have 2 truss rods?
My 59 and 60s all had two rods.

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:51 am
by Baz Cooper
John,
How thick were/are the bodies on your basses? Just wondering if mine is the same thickness.
Thanks!
Baz

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:54 pm
by Baz Cooper
Well...apparently Dale Finally sent me a personal email claiming that he did not build the bass. Said someone in New York built it??? Whatever. Well...if it's real...if it's a tribute, Rickenbacker had it perfect with his design.

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:20 pm
by Baz Cooper
However....I found this....Almost exactly like my bass....in fact...this is the Bass I picked up before I took it back to get the one I have...something fishy going on here...

http://s455.photobucket.com/user/Guitar ... ort=3&o=30

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:23 pm
by jps
Baz Cooper wrote:However....I found this....Almost exactly like my bass....in fact...this is the Bass I picked up before I took it back to get the one I have...something fishy going on here...

http://s455.photobucket.com/user/Guitar ... ort=3&o=30
Cool, a purpleheart fingerboard! 8)

We have known yours is not a real '50s 4000; now.............who made these?

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:43 am
by 8mileshigh
I think that's pretty obvious!

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:51 am
by cjj
8mileshigh wrote:I think that's pretty obvious!
+1, look at ALL the pics...

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:26 am
by jps
cjj wrote:
8mileshigh wrote:I think that's pretty obvious!
+1, look at ALL the pics...
I didn't do that, obviously.............

A great visually tutorial on building and restoring instruments, actually. A shame things are the way they are.

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:28 am
by chefothefuture
Baz Cooper wrote:John,
How thick were/are the bodies on your basses? Just wondering if mine is the same thickness.
Thanks!
Baz
Thickness varied from 1 5/8" to 1 3/4".

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:18 pm
by Baz Cooper
Ok, Dale only painted the basses, not built them
I wonder who this mystery builder is.....

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:31 pm
by Ontario_RIC_fan
Baz Cooper wrote:Ok, Dale only painted the basses, not built them
I wonder who this mystery builder is.....
Is it possible that your bass was a rebuild of a trashed vintage 4000? What confuses me is why would a non stock Rickenbacker bass have a bridge plate with an accurate serial number? I have heard of new bodies being built to replace a trashed one - Paul W (Jungle Jangle) did that with a 60s era 4005...

Could you post a picture of the bridge plate so we can see if it is a real vintage piece or a replica?

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:47 pm
by jps
Ontario_RIC_fan wrote:What confuses me is why would a non stock Rickenbacker bass have a bridge plate with an accurate serial number?
Let's start here for one possible place to harvest serial numbers. :wink:

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:29 pm
by 8mileshigh
Dale made this one. Or at least he claimed he did a few years ago. I hope you didn't pay too much. I can only imagine the number of people who will be stung in years to come by these luthier copies.

Re: 1957-59 Ric 4000 tuning keys

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:44 pm
by jps
Especially so, after the current owners go through the trouble and expense of trying to make then even more authentic-like by replacing hardware and whatnot..........