Confused about sound please help

henny · Post by **henny** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:48 pm

I used to use Line6 stuff, then of course the amazing GT6B...

... Now I use nothing but the Zoom 708II... a small, cheap unit... but my goodness it does everything.

bassman_bob · Post by **bassman_bob** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:01 am

While we're on the sound question, does anyone know what amp(s) CS used in the 70's heydays ? I have an old book of Yes sheetmusic with a narrative in it saying he used a Sunn Coliseum lead head. Is that logical when there was a Sunn Coliseum bass head out there ?

jps · Post by **jps** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:45 am

In the '70s he did use Sunn Coliseum Lead amps, and Marshall amps, too.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:05 am

Chris Squire got the Chris Squire sound with a lot of different equipment ...

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:51 am

Yes, but the old SS Sunn lead heads lend themselves to that sound when they are pushed.

dean712 · Post by **dean712** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:57 pm

This is a great thread.

To build on Bob's and Brian's most recent posts here - your live tone choices definitely depend on the mix you find yourself in. I am currently in essentially a 3-piece, so it is not as hard to be heard in the mix. In '99, I played in a cover band in Oklahoma City that had two loud guitarists and did a lot of heavy stuff - Nine Inch Nails, Metallica, etc., and it was tougher to fit in the mix.

I guess the main point is that whatever you sound like at rehearsal, you can just about guarantee that it will be different in a club full of sweaty bodies, at twice the volume....

gregson1 · Post by **gregson1** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:34 pm

I've used the Zoom BFX708 and its a nice durable unit. Our drummer slid his throne back and ended up with one leg right smack on the display panel. We played through a couple of songs before he realized what had happened. All it did was put a dent in the plastic lense.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:23 pm

Yes Dean, every night, every club is a whole new ball game, most of the time the tones just need to be tweaked a bit, but you never know. One of the many reasons I usually use a whole SVT rig at all my gigs is that it's sound is very consistant from room to room compared to many smaller amps.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:24 am

My band rehearses at the same volume we gig ... we use small amps and keep the stage volume down ... but we run into a big pa and turn that up as needed ...

back to the Geddy sound ... here's a good test ... can you get a good Geddy sound with just the bass and no amp? yep that's where it all starts ... get a good sound with just your bass then get a decent amp to reproduce that sound sound from your bass and you are most of the way there to the Geddy sound ...

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:32 am

I can get the Geddy sound with a tuba and a sansamp.

jps · Post by **jps** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:57 am

That's funny as I can get the Geddy sound with a kazoo and an octave divider!

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:19 am

but can you belch the entire alphabet?

mortivan · Post by **mortivan** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:43 am

Hmm. I've got an Octaver. Where's my kazoo...?

simer4001 · Post by **simer4001** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:55 am

Maybe I can't Jeff, but my kids dig it when I try!

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:15 pm

Great thread guys, enjoying all of it. Other great players who get that Ric sound are Meros and Camp (from Spocks Beard and Renaissance). I wonder if the sound is totally their own, or they tried to imitate someone else.