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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:56 am
by paul_yan
Bottom view of Andrew's '64 Horseshoe:

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:09 pm
by wints
Paul, thanks for helping in posting those...No, I don,t mind sharing the 68 with the forum. It,s a great bass in incredible condition, and that,s the purpose of this site. The baseplate... looks like Ric was using a little more metal in 64, than in 68...just another 60,s area where things change, and again, without this forum as reference, we,d never know about it..
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:10 pm
by wints
Hey Eden, any chance of seeing your baseplate to compare....
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:53 am
by headbanger
Guys, some interesting things to note about these two pickups. The base plate on my '64 looks the same as Andrews, roughly cut, square ends. Mine is also drilled off centre a bit. The '68 has rounded ends more like some I've seen from some lapsteels. Perhaps this is indicative of the big rush of production in 1964. Get 'em out quick.
The bobbins are different. The one from '64 has a lip around the outer edge & is black. Same as what I had. The '68 bobbin is more like an early highgain & might have been made like that to use up whatever parts were still available. Great to finally see some pics of these old beauties.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:57 pm
by gpatt5762
Looks like the reissue horseshoes have been to the orthodontist compared to the "occlusally challenged" (buck-toothed to those of you on Ajax, ON) Real McCoys.
Garry
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:04 pm
by weemac
My 64s horeshoe looks like Andrews (ie like a poor copy) However, mine looks a little more used Still sounds fine though!
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:55 am
by rickcrazy
Hm... This is Rickcrazy back on the airwaves again! Well, not yet, actually - I'm sending this message from my brother's computer. Mine won't become operational again until the end of the month.
Paul, thanks for the free advertising, as it were, to my pickups. The new treble p.u. with the mini toggle switch is ready. Expect it to blow the speaker cone out of the cabinet!
I'll stroll around a bit to read the new messages.
See ya!
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 12:54 pm
by rickcrazy
I'm back again, this time for good.
Well, thanks for the horseshoe pics & specs, guys. Now I know exactly what an ORIGINAL 4001 horseshoe pickup looks like. Very interesting indeed. I can see the high-gain pickup bobbin is basically the same as the horseshoe pickup one.
Anyone for replacement horseshoe bobbin & coil assemblies? Just kidding.
Seriously, if I were to make my own version of the 4001 horseshoe pickup I would use larger polepieces (as on the F*****-like re-issue version), thereby increasing both output and sensitivity.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:42 pm
by jwr2
My 1968 horseshoe has screw pole pieces ... although I can't adjust them because of the horseshoe cover ...
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:14 am
by rickcrazy
Jeff: can you tell whether the 68 pickup bobbin is held together by the polepieces, in 70s/80s high-gain pickup fashion? Or is it rather a single piece of plastic which doesn't depend on the polepieces in any structural way?
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:20 am
by rickcrazy
As for dimensions, I assume the 68 horseshoe pickup bobbin to be roughly 3" long, 1" wide and 2/4" tall. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:45 am
by jwr2
that's pretty accurate