Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:42 pm
And a typical treble high-gain pickup from the 70's.
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:03 pm
An original 4001 horseshoe pickup.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:41 pm
Sergio, one of these days, probably next month, I would like to send you some of my Rick bass pickups to work on for me.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:37 pm
Feel free.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:46 am
Well, I'm back to Ric pickups. The DeArmonds didn't work on my project. So, I decided to go the toaster route since I already have a 4003 with hi gains in it. I was looking for something different and this should be a great experiment! I'll post some pics as things progress.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:59 am
A 1972 treble high-gain pickup. It had a taller bobbin, a smaller magnet, and flathead screws for polepieces. (courtesy Paul Yan)
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:28 pm
Sergio,
A few years back it seemed that lots of folks were having their reissue toasters(from the V series) rewound to make them a little more bright and trebly. Have you ever done this to a 4001v63 horseshoe?
A few years back it seemed that lots of folks were having their reissue toasters(from the V series) rewound to make them a little more bright and trebly. Have you ever done this to a 4001v63 horseshoe?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:23 am
No, not to a horseshoe, but I did it to a 1993 4003 treble high-gain p.u.. It had an ohm rating of 13.5 K. I unwound it down to 7.5 K, replaced the original polepieces with (larger) slugs and the original magnet with two bar magnets, and of course added the treble-pass capacitor to the wiring harness. The result? Illegal!
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:24 pm
Here's a 60's toaster from the back
Here's a 90's toaster from the back ... note the longer magnets ... to my ears they sound pretty close ...
6 pole high gain
4 pole 90's high gain
80's 2030 pickup
89 5 pole high gain
Seymour duncan 1/4 pound neck jazz pickup in the mute slot
1990 5 pole high gain ... my favorite pickup ever!!!
an early 70's high gain with screw poles ...
Here's a 90's toaster from the back ... note the longer magnets ... to my ears they sound pretty close ...
6 pole high gain
4 pole 90's high gain
80's 2030 pickup
89 5 pole high gain
Seymour duncan 1/4 pound neck jazz pickup in the mute slot
1990 5 pole high gain ... my favorite pickup ever!!!
an early 70's high gain with screw poles ...
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:41 pm
I got my 1968 4001 out today ... I put new strings on it ...
It came with a neck toaster, bridge horseshoe with the bass cut capaciter ... I removed the capaciter ... the horseshoe became dull and bland ... I then put a 90's high gain in the neck and my early 70's screw top high gain in the bridge without the capaciter ...
What an incredible bass and what an incredible pickup combination ... It has a lot of bass and a real treble bite ...
Then my 4003s5 has the high gain in the bridge with a toaster in the neck with the seymour duncan 1/4 pound neck jazz pickup in the mute cavity ... another incredible bass with incredible pickups and tone ... it has a full sound that is better than active electronics basses ... great for picks and fingers ... and slapping ... and hammer on playing ...
It came with a neck toaster, bridge horseshoe with the bass cut capaciter ... I removed the capaciter ... the horseshoe became dull and bland ... I then put a 90's high gain in the neck and my early 70's screw top high gain in the bridge without the capaciter ...
What an incredible bass and what an incredible pickup combination ... It has a lot of bass and a real treble bite ...
Then my 4003s5 has the high gain in the bridge with a toaster in the neck with the seymour duncan 1/4 pound neck jazz pickup in the mute cavity ... another incredible bass with incredible pickups and tone ... it has a full sound that is better than active electronics basses ... great for picks and fingers ... and slapping ... and hammer on playing ...
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:59 am
sergio- the toaster on my 73 4001 has long magnets (maybe not as long as the 90's toaster in jeffs pic) Is it original?
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:04 am
Jeff,
I'm glad to hear that worked, I've been thinking about doing the same with 68 as well. I was thinking about using a late model hoseshoe instead of the highgain, what do you think that would sound like?
I'm glad to hear that worked, I've been thinking about doing the same with 68 as well. I was thinking about using a late model hoseshoe instead of the highgain, what do you think that would sound like?
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:37 am
Owen:
Yes, I'm sure the toaster p.u. on your '73 4001 is original. The toaster on my November 1970 21 fret 4001 has short magnets.
Yes, I'm sure the toaster p.u. on your '73 4001 is original. The toaster on my November 1970 21 fret 4001 has short magnets.
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:41 am
Jeff: Great pickup pics. Is the black spraying on the early 70's 'screw' high-gain original?
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:54 am
Sergio - they are kind "medium" length. Not as long as ther modern ones but not short like Jeff's 60's one.
The cavity is cut out for the magnets to sit on - and the finish is not disturbed so i guess it must be original.
Another question , do the later 70's treble hi gains differ from the one on my 73? It is the "proper" type however - not the the screwpole one.
The cavity is cut out for the magnets to sit on - and the finish is not disturbed so i guess it must be original.
Another question , do the later 70's treble hi gains differ from the one on my 73? It is the "proper" type however - not the the screwpole one.