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Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:12 am
by bartyclue

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:03 am
by johnallg
bluewhale wrote:
johnallg wrote:... a V63 has the same pickups as the CS so other than the fretboard vermillion influence, would sound the same.
I think the 4001C64 horseshoe is a revision of the 4001V63 horseshoe. Maybe the pickups on a C64 sound more like the ones Squire originally used. (That's not to take anything away from the mighty V63!)
Same pickups. I have two V63s ('93 and '97) and a C64 ('05) RIHS and they all are constructed the same and wound to the same number of turns.

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:21 am
by rickboy88
How many Ric basses do you have now John? I still have my 4. I guess I've lost track.

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:33 am
by johnallg
rickboy88 wrote:How many Ric basses do you have now John? I still have my 4. I guess I've lost track.
Six; I picked up another MG V63 from bluewhale recently.

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:04 pm
by coolhandjjl
johnallg wrote:
rickboy88 wrote:How many Ric basses do you have now John? I still have my 4. I guess I've lost track.
Six; I picked up another MG V63 from bluewhale recently.
Nice!

My dream bass is a MG v63, early '90's vintage. That will cure my gear acquisition syndrome. (yah........right.)

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:25 pm
by teeder
That will cure my gear acquisition syndrome.
Good luck with that! :lol:

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:49 pm
by bluewhale
johnallg wrote:Same pickups. I have two V63s ('93 and '97) and a C64 ('05) RIHS and they all are constructed the same and wound to the same number of turns.
I think that the V63 and C64 horseshoes differ based on my reading of John Hall's comment in this old thread

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21869

Whatever change he is referring to, it might still be consistent with your observations about construction and winding.

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:04 pm
by jaymi

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:17 pm
by cjj
bluewhale wrote:
johnallg wrote:Same pickups. I have two V63s ('93 and '97) and a C64 ('05) RIHS and they all are constructed the same and wound to the same number of turns.
I think that the V63 and C64 horseshoes differ based on my reading of John Hall's comment in this old thread

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21869

Whatever change he is referring to, it might still be consistent with your observations about construction and winding.
What John was talking about there was the old original horseshoe, where the shoes were the only magnets, and the reissue horseshoe which has Alnico permanent magnets along with non-magnetized shoes. With the reissues, the shoe directs the magnetic field similar to the originals so you get a similar sound. I believe John once said they worked very hard to get the reissue sound to be as close as possible to the originals, but it's hard to say whether it's exactly the same unless you have both to compare.

Pretty much anything with horseshoes since the early '70s will have reissues...

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:01 am
by johnallg
cjj wrote:
bluewhale wrote:
johnallg wrote:Same pickups. I have two V63s ('93 and '97) and a C64 ('05) RIHS and they all are constructed the same and wound to the same number of turns.
I think that the V63 and C64 horseshoes differ based on my reading of John Hall's comment in this old thread

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21869

Whatever change he is referring to, it might still be consistent with your observations about construction and winding.
What John was talking about there was the old original horseshoe, where the shoes were the only magnets, and the reissue horseshoe which has Alnico permanent magnets along with non-magnetized shoes. With the reissues, the shoe directs the magnetic field similar to the originals so you get a similar sound. I believe John once said they worked very hard to get the reissue sound to be as close as possible to the originals, but it's hard to say whether it's exactly the same unless you have both to compare.

Pretty much anything with horseshoes since the early '70s will have reissues...
What CJ and JH said. All RIHS have the same basic characteristics regarding alnico slugs, copper winding turns (give or take a few), coil shape/form, and shoes of plain steel. LIke I said, I have 3 RIHS that are identical, V63s and a C64.

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:38 pm
by bluewhale
cjj wrote:
bluewhale wrote:I think that the V63 and C64 horseshoes differ based on my reading of John Hall's comment in this old thread

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21869

Whatever change he is referring to, it might still be consistent with your observations about construction and winding.
What John was talking about there was the old original horseshoe, where the shoes were the only magnets, and the reissue horseshoe which has Alnico permanent magnets along with non-magnetized shoes...
cjj,

That's not the change I mean. I mean that the third paragraph in John Hall's post seems describe some change in the C64 horseshoe that would have come after the V63 horseshoe. It singles out the C Series.

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:29 pm
by cjj
Ah, OK...

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:17 pm
by coolhandjjl
bluewhale wrote: I think that the V63 and C64 horseshoes differ based on my reading of John Hall's comment in this old thread
Visual differences as well. The V series shoes meet together and are straight across, parallel to the body. The latest C series shoes meet together at a shallow peak.

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:34 pm
by Ric N. Backer
This one is getting some attention. It's at $3K, with about 2 days remaining.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Chris- ... 2eb26a947a

There was on several months ago (located in Sweden or Switzerland, or someplace like that) that appeared to be in mint condition, but didn't garner much attention.

Hey, remember that one that was all discolored big-time. It looked like is may have been positioned right above a cigarette exhaust fan or something.

Nicotine-glow :lol:

Re: Chris Squire Signature Bass Wanted

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:19 pm
by bartyclue
Ric N. Backer wrote:This one is getting some attention. It's at $3K, with about 2 days remaining.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Chris- ... 2eb26a947a

There was on several months ago (located in Sweden or Switzerland, or someplace like that) that appeared to be in mint condition, but didn't garner much attention.

Hey, remember that one that was all discolored big-time. It looked like is may have been positioned right above a cigarette exhaust fan or something.

Nicotine-glow :lol:

And I have been lucky enough to acquire it. I tried buying one of these several years ago on ebay. I had to bow out when the bidding reached 7K. Timing... they say is everything. I will post pics after it arrives. I am stoked!