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Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:48 pm
by johnallg
rickaddict wrote:johnallg wrote:
My theory is they had a binding employee at the time that used a different way of gluing on the binding and we are seeing the results with time. He may even have thrown in CB along with the white scraps to be dissolved to use as the gluing agent. Yeah, just my thoughts on this.
Spot on, John! (Yes...I'm a poet!)
I've seen this binding stain phenomenon at least 5 times over the years, and here's what a well-known former RIC employee (who was working there at the time this bass was built) has said about it:
"The stain was caused from straight acetone being used to adhere the binding when the Bass was built in 1972."
See also:
Well, whadda ya know......
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:51 pm
by libratune
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:00 am
by teeder
That's too bad about these mapleglos!
Wonder why the new long guard. Hiding something?
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:33 am
by glking14
my 71 has a longer pick guard too. Its because of the longer truss rod routing
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:59 am
by teeder
Interesting.
I'm used to '71's looking like this.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:22 pm
by woodyng
teeder wrote:That's too bad about these mapleglos!
Wonder why the new long guard. Hiding something?
Maybe the owner just prefers that look. (As do I)
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:34 pm
by libratune
glking14 wrote:my 71 has a longer pick guard too. Its because of the longer truss rod routing
Looks like that's what might have happened here:
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:16 pm
by teeder
woodyng wrote:teeder wrote:That's too bad about these mapleglos!
Wonder why the new long guard. Hiding something?
Maybe the owner just prefers that look. (As do I)
Oh, I agree. The longer guards look better. Just wondering why it was necessary. The '71's I posted were a Jan and Feb, so I wonder if the basses with the extended truss-rod channels are left over '60's basses?
And technically, I was correct. Something is being hidden. It just happened to be the factory that was doing the hiding.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:37 pm
by jps
teeder wrote:...I wonder if the basses with the extended truss-rod channels are left over '60's basses?
I was going to post that but for the headstock shape. Unless, the neck blank was cut for the rods before adding the headstock wings and shaping it.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:49 pm
by Ontario_RIC_fan
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:55 pm
by jps
Similar, but they are different basses.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:49 am
by Kopfjaeger
Whoa,
Kevin that is an awesome Burgundyglo!!! Is she yours? If so, still have her?
Stunning, really!!
Sepp
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:48 am
by teeder
It was mine for a while. It's a beautiful bass but we never got along very well.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:50 pm
by chefothefuture
The pick guard length likely was shortened when the
first 21r's were made as the treble pup on the first ones
is the same distance from the forward shifted bridges as
on the 20 fret basses. On the later 21r's, the treble pup was
placed back in the same position as the 20r's and consequently
closer to the bridge.
Mid to late '71 basses sometimes got a long guard.
My Nov 71 has one.
Re: Early 70's MG 4001 binding bleed
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:58 pm
by teeder
Good point, John.
Here's Tony C's old '71.
