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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:27 am
by randyz
The background sound level is very low inside our reverberant chamber. If you close doors and sit quietly, you can start to hear your own heartbeat. If that doesn't bother you, stay a little longer and you can hear the blood moving in your head.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:34 am
by wayang
Then there's the high pitched sound of the electrical impulses of your nervous system...and people complain about 'the 60-cycle hum'!

Apparently, this 'existential hum' goes away when one is on smack...one of the symptoms of withdrawal is the return of this noise, which we who are 'fully concious' can't hear...

(An auspicious 1400th posting...)

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:42 am
by steve_hershberger
Randy and Dane - I really can and do hear such things at various quiet times - and I've never done smack (and never will).

I'd be most worried whenever I'd *stop* hearing those sounds! Of course, I'd probably only worry about it for a second, but still... ;-)

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:07 am
by shamustwin
Sometimes I can hear my eyeballs move...

In my youth, the church on the corner of Highland and Fountain between the Hollywood Bowl and Hollywood Bl. let my band rehearse in some unused rooms, in perhaps an attempt to help out less fortunate kids. We were rather well off valley kids, but we didn't tell.

Being weird kids none the less, we'd goof off when taking a break, and once our guitarist was chasing us through the halls and empty rooms with two plastic forks in his hand making a cross symbol, and yelling "the power of Christ compels you"! Well, I opened a door to a room and he followed me in shouting it with upraised "cross" one last time before we realized the room was full of priests in conference. Our band lost it's rehearsal space.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:31 am
by randyz
I can always hear the 'existential hum' as Dane refers to it, but I didn't know what it was called. It is perceived as a sound, but do we really 'hear' it? Are our eardrums really picking up a sound, or is it simply noise caused by the electrical impulses of our nervous system passing through our eardrums? Hmmmmmm...

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:28 pm
by winston
I thought the hum that I can always hear was caused by playing too damn loud. Especially in my youth......

Shows you what I know about 'existential hum'. I am still convinced however, that the sound I hear is related to wattage rather than voltage.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:41 pm
by kcole4001
A little off topic, but the coolest thing I've heard was this: I woke up at 3:20 a.m. to the tail end of the loudest thunderclap I've ever heard, which shook the brick apartment building like a freight train in the next room, to hear the sound of the air raid sirens howling all over the city (Halifax). Then the rain pounding down as only a summer downpour coming off the ocean can. I wish I'd recorded it. Quite a sensation.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:32 pm
by wayang
Kevin...are you by chance a...bass...player...??

So, in considering Randy's existential 'poser'...I think, whether you believe that what you 'hear' in aural isolation (and I have heard it) is a 'sound' (i.e...Are sounds 'waves of air which strike the eardrum', and that only?), or: that the electrical impulses of the nervous system stimulate the eardrums enough to cause a 'feeding back' of energy into the perception system, which is then processed by the brain as a 'sound', is a moot point...

It sure looks good when you type it out, though!

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:19 am
by kcole4001
Why, yeeees!Image
And the only residual sound I can hear now is technically called tinnitus.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:38 am
by winston
Tinnitus The word comes from Latin and means "to tinkle or to ring like a bell."

In almost all cases, tinnitus is a subjective noise, meaning that only the person who has tinnitus can hear it. Someone with tinnitus often describes it as "ringing in the ears," but people report hearing all kinds of sounds: crickets, whooshing, pulsing, ocean waves, buzzing, even music.

Many people will experience it temporarily or intermittently and some may experience this "ringing in the ears" 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:32 pm
by kcole4001
Mine's a ringing 24/7.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:43 pm
by winston
Me too

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:49 pm
by kcole4001
I found cymbals really decrease the high freq in whichever ear is closer. For years I played with the drummer to my left, so my left ear hears about 70% of my right's capability.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:03 pm
by winston
We played far too loud on stage. Especially in the early 60's before good sound systems came along. After that you could mike everything through the P.A. and it wasn't so bad.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:06 am
by kcole4001
Lower stage volume & a dynamic drummer are key. You still have to match the drum volume on stage to get a good feel, so if the drummer is heavy handed there's not a lot you can do but use earplugs. I've always had the good fortune to play with good, dynamic drummers, but there are guys around who just kill the kit in every song. Great technique, but very little dynamics.