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Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:33 am
by greg_feo
IvanMunoz wrote:How'd that happen? (The crack in the soundhole)
Time... :roll:
Image

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:34 pm
by Ontario_RIC_fan
greg_feo wrote:
Have a very good closeup of the SN# (CM107) on jack plate if interested.

Still wondering about the Budokan Rick's SN... :?
Of course we are interested!!! Please share...

They was some discussion on the RIC corporate forum that John Hall had narrowed the potential sample of 1965 FG 360 12s to about 5 or 6 based upon shipments by Rickenbacker of that model to the music store in Minneapolis... But the actual SN's involved have never been made public to my knowledge...

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:17 pm
by shamustwin
Doesn't look like sparklies on that. :?:

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:40 pm
by libratune
shamustwin wrote:Doesn't look like sparklies on that. :?:
It would be nice to know the history of RIC's use of crushed pearl fretboard inlays (CPIs). They appeared on some models in 1961/2 (360-series, to my knowledge) then RIC went back to the "plastic" (for lack of a better term) inlays until the advent of the "new" rounded-top 360-series models in 1964, when CPIs re-appeared and lasted through the early '70s.

I believe that's one of the reasons why the V64 and C63 reissues have the plastic inlays not CPIs -- wouldn't be correct as CPIs are not on CM107.

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:54 pm
by greg_feo
Ontario_RIC_fan wrote:
greg_feo wrote:
Have a very good closeup of the SN# (CM107) on jack plate if interested.

Still wondering about the Budokan Rick's SN... :?
Of course we are interested!!! Please share...

They was some discussion on the RIC corporate forum that John Hall had narrowed the potential sample of 1965 FG 360 12s to about 5 or 6 based upon shipments by Rickenbacker of that model to the music store in Minneapolis... But the actual SN's involved have never been made public to my knowledge...
OK.. This photo shows the jackplate.
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Here is a closeup of the jackplate:
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My (old) theory . It could be a DK or a DI :roll: , this would place it in the right timeframe...
making it a 64 not a 65, hmmm? Unless you think that looks like an E. Either way...interesting.

Never heard about a '66 "caper"...once upon a time? However , Twickenham Studios in '69 ...

Back to,,, how cool is it that this '63 (CM107) is HERE !!!

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:50 pm
by Ivan3000
Amazing pictures. Greg.

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:02 pm
by libratune
greg_feo wrote: Back to,,, how cool is it that this '63 (CM107) is HERE !!!
Very cool indeed, Greg. All the photos -- and especially the close-ups like the ones showing the crack in the 'guard and the crack coming off the soundhole -- bring this iconic guitar into the realm of the real. It was, for a time, GH's main axe that was played and played again.

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:35 pm
by greg_feo
Like reaching the holy grail imho..
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:wink:

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:10 am
by Ontario_RIC_fan
greg_feo wrote: OK.. This photo shows the jackplate.
Image
Here is a closeup of the jackplate:
ImageImage

My (old) theory . It could be a DK or a DI :roll: , this would place it in the right timeframe...
making it a 64 not a 65, hmmm? Unless you think that looks like an E. Either way...interesting.

Never heard about a '66 "caper"...once upon a time? However , Twickenham Studios in '69 ...

Back to,,, how cool is it that this '63 (CM107) is HERE !!!
Greg:

I have several different versions of that same image (some in higher resolution)... My best guess, based upon the very pixelated images and playing with the contrast in photo-shop is.... ED 774... If you look at the register Rickenbacker was indeed making 360 12's that week....

The other fingerprint could be the wood grain in some black and white photos of George playing it....
GHarision 2.jpg
GHarision 1.jpg
The guitar was definitely still around in 1969...
abby rd.jpg

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:47 pm
by Ivan3000
Ontario_RIC_fan wrote:
greg_feo wrote: OK.. This photo shows the jackplate.
Image
Here is a closeup of the jackplate:
ImageImage

My (old) theory . It could be a DK or a DI :roll: , this would place it in the right timeframe...
making it a 64 not a 65, hmmm? Unless you think that looks like an E. Either way...interesting.

Never heard about a '66 "caper"...once upon a time? However , Twickenham Studios in '69 ...

Back to,,, how cool is it that this '63 (CM107) is HERE !!!
Greg:

I have several different versions of that same image (some in higher resolution)... My best guess, based upon the very pixelated images and playing with the contrast in photo-shop is.... ED 774... If you look at the register Rickenbacker was indeed making 360 12's that week....

The other fingerprint could be the wood grain in some black and white photos of George playing it....
GHarision 2.jpg
GHarision 1.jpg
The guitar was definitely still around in 1969...
abby rd.jpg
Nice Picture there!

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:02 pm
by padraigwhelan
I'm assuming you've all seen the Scorsese movie by now, if not though you must...

An amazing movie, amazing guitar! Thanks for sharing...

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:28 pm
by greg_feo
Thanks & yes I've seen it, 'parts' of it are running at the Museum.
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PM sent :arrow: 8)

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:32 pm
by greg_feo
kiramdear wrote:
scotty wrote:Meh.... probably just like any other its not like its the first 12 stringer or anything...
No, it's only the second one ... :mrgreen:
What is the story on the first ?

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:41 pm
by JakeK

Re: George Harrison '63 360/12 (pics) @ Grammy Museum

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:09 pm
by Folkie
Thanks, Jake, for those two links. I knew the basics, but it's nice to see detailed photos of the first twelve-string Rickenbacker built.