And another 1968 4001 resurrection.....

[Captain Bob]

Agreed. I'm not aware of a listing of the tensile for Pyramids, but having played around with them on occasion over the years, they are relatively high tension requiring a neck tweak. They are also a very stiff string to play.
I have never liked them.

[henry5]

Stock 4003 rounds are 138lbs according to John Hall. I think the Kalium's (formerly Circle K) feel very similar, and have a similar tone too, which I like a lot.

That's weird, because I once tried to put a set of Ric strings on my main '72, which was wearing the 40-95 Rotos, and they immediately started pulling the neck forward so I took 'em straight off. And yet by those figures the Ric strings should be lower tension; it definitely wasn't the case.

If the Kaliums sound similar to Ric strings I probably won't like them. Ric strings sound far too polite to me.

[wints]

Shaun,

I have my very first set of Roto's, ever, on my '67 and it sounds amazing! They certainly are high tension and did raise the action up a little. It's doesn't bother me, but I know you like it very low. It may be too much. IMO, you should be able to go to something in between like GHS Boomers, which are much less $'s than TI's.

That's one of the most stable necks I've come across Kev. Fabulous action that reminds me of the Gibb bass.

Looking good Shaun. Should be a stunning bass when finished...

[teeder]

I'm pretty sure they're 40-95.

I was wrong, they're 45-100's, nickles! I love the tone, but maybe I should try the 40-95's.

That's one of the most stable necks I've come across Kev. Fabulous action that reminds me of the Gibb bass.

It's a real sweetheart! I had been having some weird output loss / phase issues with the HS, so I put a Lollar re-wound '73 bridge pu in there and man does it sing through a little B-15 reissue!

[henry5]

Shaun,

I have my very first set of Roto's, ever, on my '67 and it sounds amazing! They certainly are high tension and did raise the action up a little. It's doesn't bother me, but I know you like it very low. It may be too much. IMO, you should be able to go to something in between like GHS Boomers, which are much less $'s than TI's.

That's one of the most stable necks I've come across Kev. Fabulous action that reminds me of the Gibb bass.

Looking good Shaun. Should be a stunning bass when finished...

Thanks Andy.

[henry5]

I'm pretty sure they're 40-95.

I was wrong, they're 45-100's, nickles! I love the tone, but maybe I should try the 40-95's.

That's one of the most stable necks I've come across Kev. Fabulous action that reminds me of the Gibb bass.

It's a real sweetheart! I had been having some weird output loss / phase issues with the HS, so I put a Lollar re-wound '73 bridge pu in there and man does it sing through a little B-15 reissue!

A Roto 45 is pretty stiff - even a 40-100 set feels quite a bit stiffer than mine - so going down to 40-95 should make a fair difference. I'd be interested to see how you got on.

Glad to hear the bass is singing!

[teeder]

Better that it sings instead of it's owner!

[henry5]

[henry5]

In the meantime, the parts have arrived. These are just to give an idea of what it'll look like.









The guard's not mine; that's yet to be made, and should be somewhat more opaque, which is my preference; something like this:

[squirebass]

Very nice!!

[Kopfjaeger]

Shaun,

Have you tried DR Sunbeams?? Really bright. I do prefer Kallium strings on most of my basses but I put a set of Medium DR Sunbeams on my 72 4001 and I'm in love with the tone. I first played DR's when I had Mark Walker's 1968 Mapleglo vacationing at my home. I fell in love with the tone.

Actually my 72 just arrived back from being refret and I'll be gigging her tomorrow night!

Sepp

[berth]

I suppose I can buy this one as well once it is finished.

[henry5]

Shaun,

Have you tried DR Sunbeams?? Really bright. I do prefer Kallium strings on most of my basses but I put a set of Medium DR Sunbeams on my 72 4001 and I'm in love with the tone. I first played DR's when I had Mark Walker's 1968 Mapleglo vacationing at my home. I fell in love with the tone.

Actually my 72 just arrived back from being refret and I'll be gigging her tomorrow night!

Sepp

Haven't tried them Sepp, mainly because I'm not too comfortable with the gauges. May do at some point.

[henry5]

I suppose I can buy this one as well once it is finished.

There's every chance Bert. I think you'll like the colour.

[songdog]

Love to see an old 4001 saved! I've been following this thread with interest.

Just out of curiosity, where are you all finding the tensions of different string sets? I'm using standard Rotosounds (RS66LD) on my '72 4001, have for years decades, haven't noticed any problems. Action is as low as I like it and the bridge isn't bottomed out, so I don't think it's developing negative neck angle. It would be interesting to know the tension on these strings.