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Like him or not, Paul McCartney has left his musical mark on the charts, on the folds of our temporal lobes and on our souls.

For me his greatest successes occurred in the 1960s moreso than in recent years. Like all of us, however, he has been stung by the loss of several people very close to him. He has learned what we have, that life is often not about how fast and far you run, or how high you climb, but rather, how well you bounce.

I think that Paul has bounced well given the challenges that he has faced and for a guy in his sixties he still rocks. Oh yeah, "yesterday" wasn't bad either.

Good night, Chet!

Good Night David!

Quick, close the thread! I see Dane coming!

Peter, once again we see why you're the one and only guy to run this forum...wish we could send you to the U.N.

...and good night from the National Biscuit Company...

And to think... I just wanted to ask a question about a black and white plywood bass.

Well, If you want to convince the world that it is a piece of "dung" then you might want to start with number 1 of million plus people who bought it when it came out. Wether a song is good or not cannot be judged by anyone....everyone has their own oppinion

Alex, I will say it once more--

Popularity and quality do not equate!

Whether a song is good or not can and SHOULD be judged by everyone! You and I judge this everytime we buy or don't buy a song or album! The result of this judgement is called opinion. You decide (judge) whether or not you like a song, and then you vote with your dollars.

All of us are airing our opinions (there's that word again!) on a public forum.

Lastly, nobody is trying to "convince the world" of anything. That would be an exercise in futility.

I think (upon reflection) that what you're trying to say is that nobody really has the final word, and the choice whether to like a song or not is very personal.

To which I say: Amen.

yea, but some of you are airing your oppinion like its fact

It is fact...these ARE our opinions...we're not makin' em up...

I defer to my dad on this..."That's why they make some red cars and some blue cars"...

To which I might add: some Dungmobiles...a lot of people bought Pintos, remember? It's the inexorable dumbing down of culture that (I think) Paul W. and I are upset about. Steve Morse of the Dixie Dregs once bemoaned the fact that for a lot of players, a day comes when they realize that they will actually be better compensated for playing less interesting music...it takes will power and integrity (which never was a very bankable commodity) to resist these pressures. For example, get hold of a copy of Nat Cole playing piano at the Jazz at the Philharmonic series...I assure you, you will not believe it's the same guy who sang "Ramblin' Rose"...guess which recording made him more money.

A big part of this issue is whether or not an artist is 'giving their all'...I never expected deathless stuff from Ringo, and therefore I salute him on his commercial success...he was giving us all he had...Paul, on the other hand...

Anybody ever hear Paul's opera? Whew, what's that smell?

I'll never forget when Bill Bruford quit Yes and all that money to play with Fripp and company...it takes a lot of Menschheit to push yourself away from the trough like that...

If we're all too enamored with Sir Paul as a person (and I think he's an absolutely great guy) to be objective about this, we could start a new thread and put the smackdown on Phil Collins, who deserves it at least as much...

But if you seriously cannot hear a difference between Eleanor Rigby and Silly Love Songs, maybe we should just leave this where it lies...

Ok, so everyone on this forum will offically now recognize every oppinion as an absolute fact.....and tell others that if they dont agree with their oppinion then they are wrong and shall burn for it!

No, no, no, brother, we ain't saying that for a second...and if we were, we would deserve to burn!

How about this...opinions are like fingerprints: no two are alike. But I'm not cuttin' mine off because they don't match yours, and I don't want you to do that either...

The world will go on turning regardless, and there's no reason for anybody to lose sleep over this...you've got millions of consumers on your side, and I've got...Jingle Jangle...I'd say we're even.

I'm ready to call it a draw. Waddya say?
LOL (lots o' love) to ya...

Alex: I continue to enjoy your 318th post on The Rickenbacker Forum.

One of the most intriguing things about this Forum, for me, is that two people can observe the same event and yet have very different interpretations.

Our views are related, in large part, to our socialization. As each one of us comes from our own unique place it is only natural that we are going to disagree on any number of things. In the end, it is hearing the thoughts of others that allows us to challenge our own views and re-assess who we are.

As humans we don't handle complexity or ambiguity very well, and so to be at odds with others' views can be uncomfortable.

While it is more comfortable to coast along on some issues and agree with the popular view, sometimes when I coast along merrily I get the distinct impression I am going downhill.

In the end, perhaps more good things emerge from aberration than conformity. Paul McCartney and his side-kicks are certainly a prime example. So sometimes we find love and agreement and sometimes we don't as Paulie reminds us

"Love doesn't come in a minute, Sometimes I doesn't come at all, I only know that when I'm in it, it isn't silly, no it isn't silly, love isn't silly at all."