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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:57 pm
by studiotwosession
For sure. I love how the average murder trial goes three weeks but when you're an O.J. or a Phil it goes five months or a year.
There is something so film noir about the limo driver sitting outside of Phil's LA castle at five a.m., hearing a shot and then seeing Phil stagger out, gun in one hand, blood on the other, and say what he said.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:25 pm
by tennis_nick
That's what happens when you sleep in a reverb tank...
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:43 pm
by brammy
Hopefully the jury wont be a bunch of brainless dingbats this time.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:19 am
by studiotwosession
Well, racial biases aside, if you were the OJ jury and the trial took an entire year of your life up, you'd think "how could this trial last a year and he be guilty?" Ito should have been fired but at least has a black cloud over him for the duration of his life.
In this case the same thing applies. The prosecution is always gonna say it's pure and simple murder. But if it's pure and simple, how can they drag is out this long?
As it's been posted (police report) here, was there anything more simple? The guy was seen with the gun in one hand, blood on the other, and he confessed to the witness seconds after the shot rang out.
He claims the victim committed suicide (but not until hours after the incident.) But if she did, why didn't he call for help? Why didn't he cooperate with the cops? Why did he wipe off the gun and place it under her leg? And change his clothes, etc., etc., etc?
Looks like we may find out what they jury think soon:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jVbDTUEkbOyCQauMOuBYnlaSuxjg
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:14 pm
by jwh
I used to think that Phil Spector was an ***. Now I think he's *** and a murderer.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:06 pm
by brammy
>>> if you were the OJ jury and the trial took an entire year of your life up, you'd think "how could this trial last a year and he be guilty?"
huh? That makes no sense at all. If I were a juror I'd think OJ was guilty because of all the evidence against him (the inept prosecution and dingbat judge notwithstanding)... period.
"glove doesn't fit" my arse. When it was new and not shrunken by dried blood, the glove was OJ's size. End of story.
Sorry for the rant, but the OJ case is a sore spot for me and one that I've researched a bit.
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:56 am
by studiotwosession
>>huh? That makes no sense at all. <<
I would think arguing the other side would be harder, seeing that 12 people sat through it for a year and let him walk. I think it's obvious he is guilty. But I didn't watch the trial. The extraordinary length of it didn't do the prosecution much good.
Then again, I think Phil's clearly guilty. And they're going into their 5th day of deliberations. Will he walk? After OJ, anything's possible. I think it's an outrage this think went five months instead of one.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:03 am
by brammy
"After OJ, anything's possible" ..... yup, thats for sure. Here's Phil in his "murder-trial" wig.
or is that just some roadkill that he's slapped on his head?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:09 am
by brammy
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:41 am
by wayang
Let's not forget about Robert "you can take dat t'da bank, baby" Blake...these cases are about money, not justice or anything else.
"Don't do the crime unless your lawyer's got the time..."
As I type this, the teevee's reporting on The Juice's arrest in Vegas...hey, he was just tryin' to get his 'stuff' back...probably the same thing that was going through his tiny mind on his way up the darkened sidewalk to Nicole's...
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:11 am
by lyle_from_minneapolis
Perhaps Phil's victim committed the perfect suicide.
...Next time he plays his old "I'm threatening you with a loaded gun" game, I'll pull the trigger for him...I die instantly, and he goes to prison...
I know, this is an unlikely scenario. Ridiculously improbable...but possible. And such stories are all it takes to produce "reasonable" doubt (maybe ludicrous, but it is reasoned). Defense lawyers, especially the very-well-paid, spend a lot of time on such things to produce doubt...and the trials get longer.
Not saying I believe this story, just explaining why trials can last so long, even after the general public has already made their own judgement.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:22 pm
by brammy
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:55 am
by wayang
Mark...I'd say the perfect suicide was committed a couple of days ago by a member of the St. Petersburg, Fla., City Council.
Well, the perfect reason for suicide, anyway...
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:27 am
by rictified
Something I've though for a long time especially since the OJ case: Jury of your peers should be replaced by a jury of professionals (professional jurors that is) Everyone else involved is a professional why not the jurors?
Having a jury of your peers in a trial like this is like having a bunch of people plucked out of nowhere to umpire a pro sports game.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:10 am
by lyle_from_minneapolis
Yeah, but who pays a pro jury, and for what? How would one excel at the job, or impress the boss? I shudder to contemplate it.
No, sideways as it may seem, those Founding Fathers had some pretty enduring ideas.