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Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:43 pm
by Kopfjaeger
Ken,
Thanks for the link. I purchased a 1 pound can of the putty. I figured I'd try it on my saddles and it it works well, I'll be able to everyone's damaged saddled with that one pound can!!!
Sepp
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:33 pm
by collin
That aluminum putty is pretty soft stuff. I have used it in automotive applications and wasn't too impressed.
YMMV though.
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:13 pm
by Kopfjaeger
I hope it is comparable to how it's advertised. If not, @ $40. + shipping for a pound, it won't be the worst investment I've ever made. I'll try it on something else first as a test.
Sepp
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:27 am
by ken_j
I'll take a look and see if I have any. I need to get fid of a lot of stuff anyway.
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:04 am
by Kopfjaeger
Ken,
No need, thanks any way. I ordered a pound of the stuff. I'm going to mix a small batch and test it before trying it on my saddles.
Sepp
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:40 pm
by ken_j
JB Weld and PC7 are other options.
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:22 pm
by Kopfjaeger
UPDATE
I received the harness Dane rebuilt for me. it looks awesome! I can't wait to get her all hooked up! The horse shoes arrived yesterday and stayed only long enough to get re-boxed and sent out to Mark Walker. Mark is converting a 6 pole raised lip bobbin to a 4 pole. The shoes, bobbin, and hardware was sent off to Mark. He should have it early in the week.
Waiting on the new pickguard so i can mount the harness and the toaster. I'm hoping the length of wire on the toaster will be long enough to reach where I have to solder it. If not, I'll have to replace it.
Tried to place an on-line order with PotR but it says my email address is already an account. Don't remember creating an account there before so I'll have to wait until Chris is back from vacation and place it over the phone. Need all new pickguard screws and other small items. Strings should from Circle K should be here in a few days.
Sepp
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:21 pm
by walker
jps wrote:Good move, Sepp.
On the other hand, 1 1/2" horseshoe pickups can be used successfully on a 4000 series bass. Exhibit X:
Sorry I didn't catch this comment earlier to reply in a timely manner. The 1&½" wide shoes provide a hell of a snarl. There must be something about the extra quarter inch of metal that contributes to the brightness of the sound. Here are good samples of what that bass sounds like:
'Family Tree'
'Bass Player Song' test mix
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:31 pm
by Ashgray
Stunning sound, Mark!
I now get a pretty similar sound out of my 4001 v63, courtesy of installing a similar pup recently bought from Tony Matura, which I understand you put together.
Ash
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:34 pm
by walker
Yeah, glad it worked out for you!
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:25 pm
by walker
Just one more comment on the horseshoe sidebar - the pickup in Tony M's '62 4000 is by far the most kick-butt horseshoe I've ever heard, so if yours is performing at that level, then all the more power to you! I modeled the pickup you have on that one, so hopefully it came close to the mark.
And now, back to Joe's '65, currently in progress.

Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:34 pm
by chefothefuture
I always thought the early bass horsies had a lot more presence than the mid 60s ones.
Better magnets perhaps….
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:22 pm
by Kopfjaeger
Mark,
Wow! I'll be real happy if my bass sounds close to the tracks you posted!! Love it!!
Sepp
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:45 pm
by johnallg
teeder wrote:I really like the sound of the RIHS, but it doesn't come close to the vintage sound of the real magnetic shoe pu's.

What Kevin said.
Re: 1965 4001 needs a bit of TLC
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:04 pm
by johnallg
aceonbass wrote:Just finished Sepp's harness. He opted for the bass cut cap, so I supplied a C&D .0047 cap. Most of the selector switch is original, but the leaves, one of the plastic insulator tubes, and the nut were replaced. I also used a pair of NOS Ajax Blue caps. They spec'd out at .045uF & .051uF. I really don't know their construction (I'm not cutting one open!), but I do think they sound better than the C&D caps RIC currently uses.
I googled around and found a few places that said the construction is foil/poly. One site said the current Cornell Dubilier WMF are foil/poly and sound the same.