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The 200 series....

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:02 am
by roadrunners
What do you all think of the 200 series guitars....Id like a backup rick....and fairly soon...and these are definetly in the price range

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:23 am
by sir_andrew_of_left_coast
I've got two of them: a 220 in Midnight Blue and a Fireglo 260. Their "earlier" incarnations (i.e., the 230 and 250) seem to pop-up more frequently on eBay, though. Of course, they are all decendants of the 430.

Since they are discontinued, it's would appear they didn't sell well enough. But I think that's primarily due to their "look" -- not they way they play. Most RIC-aficionados take one look at a 200 Series guitar and say: "Yuck!"

Both of mine are excellent players. Pretty versatile, too! And, yes, they can be picked up pretty inexpensively. A couple of years ago, I got my 220 for a whopping $360 on eBay... and the "cosmetics" were in great shape!

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:50 pm
by bmi_guy
Alex - I've got an old 430 - which is almost identical to the 200 series. Sir Andrew is right - they don't look "RICish" but my 430 plays and sounds great. Don't know about used prices as I bought mine new in 1975. It's a Jet Glo - which I believe was the only factory finish available for the 430's. Check out Bjorn's site as he has a lot of models there with pictures.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:57 pm
by soundmasterg
I've had an '89 230 since I bought it used in 1991 and I love it. There is another at a local store (a 1991 model) and I want it but don't have the dough. Excellent playing and sounding guitars. Pretty ugly body though. You shouldn't pay any more than $700 for one I would guess.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:20 am
by rumbush
This 430 is not in Jetglo...Bjorn's page says there were 5 incarnations of the 430:

http://www.rickbeat.com/modelslibrary/430/430.htm

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:40 am
by roadrunners
hmm I think id like to buy a 430 and see if I could modify a full size pickgaurd to fit on it.....

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:19 am
by jwr2
I would really like to own a 200 series guitar ... I think I would turn it into a 7 string .... ahhh just kidding ... well half kidding ...

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:05 am
by jingle_jangle
Alex: Why not just make a pickguard? Stew Mac has all the materials and there must be a bandsaw or jigsaw in your neck of the woods. The rest is just sanding, as long as you stick to celluloid. If you use acrylic, well, that's a whole 'nuther animal.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:33 am
by roadrunners
i just think the mini pickguard looks daft....Im basically trying to get my hands on ANY rick....as a backup 6 string....but i need it to be cheap. I dont care if its trashed...but I figured the least expensive one i could find is a 200 or even 430

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:39 pm
by jwilli
Alex, what do you mean by full size? The 200 Series has the smaller of the two pickguards.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:59 pm
by roadrunners
Looking at the pictures on rickbeat.com of the 200 (or 460?) it has kind of a tiny pickgaurd it looks kind of awkward

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:22 am
by sir_andrew_of_left_coast
Not a 460, Alex. A 460 has a very LARGE pickguard... it covers almost the whole front side of the guitar! You must've been looking at the 260. Which is mine, by the way. ;-)

220s and 260s have small, single tier pickguards (so do the Glenn Frey's)... about the same size as those found on the 650 Series. If you opt for a 230 or 250, there are no pickguards... so you can fabricate whatever you want without having to worry about "existing holes." Although I'm not sure how the volume/control cavity will line-up.

Are you wanting a pickguard the same size as the bottom pickguard on those Ricks that have the two-tier design? Or are you wanting to have the two-tier pickguard? The string height is pretty low on 200 Series guitars... I don't know if you could get by with a two-tier pickguard; the pickguard might be higher than the strings and interfere with your strumming.

I did replace the small-sized "chrome" pickguard on my 650D with a RIC two-tier pickguard... and it's a close fit. My profile has a link to my site... see the "Photo Page." Is what I did to my 650 the same as what you want to do to a 200 Series guitar when you get one?

Just trying to be clear on what you want to do...