Swirls in my Jetglo Finish
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jetglow
Swirls in my Jetglo Finish
I bought a used jetglo 325. It has buffing swirls in the finish and I would like to get rid of them if possible. What is the best way to revive a finish to a glossy new look?
This is a tough one and requires some equipment
I use a polish and a buffer that will take care of this.
You must go to an Automotive paint supplier and get this stuff.
Ask them for a buffing pad that will remove swirl marks.They no doubt will give you a 'Schlegel' pad and a bottle of 3M Finesse-it
finishing material
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Now they might recommend something else ,but this is what I have been using since 1985 and fully endorse this .
The buffing pads require some kind of drill motor or hand held buffer .
Now if you don't want to spend the money on the pad and the buffer/drill motor....you can do this by hand .
you will need clean ,washed 100% cotton.I would go to a fabric store and buy a yard of white 100% cotton cloth.Don't use an old shirt as it may have little particles of stuff in it and the thread may not be cotton the sews the hems.
This will take some elbow grease and some time .But it can be done.
The best (and nearly the most fanatical polisher that I have ever met is Don Adamek),he does a great job by hand .I won't go into his wrist technique as it already is sounding like something else.But he may give you some insight as to what he does.
I use a polish and a buffer that will take care of this.
You must go to an Automotive paint supplier and get this stuff.
Ask them for a buffing pad that will remove swirl marks.They no doubt will give you a 'Schlegel' pad and a bottle of 3M Finesse-it
finishing material
#-05928
Now they might recommend something else ,but this is what I have been using since 1985 and fully endorse this .
The buffing pads require some kind of drill motor or hand held buffer .
Now if you don't want to spend the money on the pad and the buffer/drill motor....you can do this by hand .
you will need clean ,washed 100% cotton.I would go to a fabric store and buy a yard of white 100% cotton cloth.Don't use an old shirt as it may have little particles of stuff in it and the thread may not be cotton the sews the hems.
This will take some elbow grease and some time .But it can be done.
The best (and nearly the most fanatical polisher that I have ever met is Don Adamek),he does a great job by hand .I won't go into his wrist technique as it already is sounding like something else.But he may give you some insight as to what he does.
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
Oooh, this is gonna cost you, Arnquist!
But seriously, what I have done to "tweak" the finish, is to get old cotton dishtowels, and I cut or rip the seamed edge off of them, or also use flannel[Rick polishing cloths are fine, too]
and I have specifically used Meguiars Mirror Glaze
# 5 and # 9 to get my desired results.I only own a 6# buffer attachment for my hand drill, and I use this only if I refinished a body ,where there is a large surface area. But for myself, I have sworn that I will not do any more finish work, since I was never really set up for it to begin with. I will say that any new Ricks I've had the last 12 years, I have dissassembled, and meticulously Repolished with the Meguiars # 5
till all the "haze and mild swirl" that the factory process leaves is eliminated.When I get done, there is No after production residue left At All.You see the paint and color in it's full glory.But doing all this by hand Does make your wrists Very fatigued, and for me, I'm not doing a lot of this anymore, as I already get too much repetitive motion activity at my day job at the post office.You Have to watch out for this. If you're going to enjoy playing your guitar, it really helps to not have aching hands and wrists.
But seriously, what I have done to "tweak" the finish, is to get old cotton dishtowels, and I cut or rip the seamed edge off of them, or also use flannel[Rick polishing cloths are fine, too]
and I have specifically used Meguiars Mirror Glaze
# 5 and # 9 to get my desired results.I only own a 6# buffer attachment for my hand drill, and I use this only if I refinished a body ,where there is a large surface area. But for myself, I have sworn that I will not do any more finish work, since I was never really set up for it to begin with. I will say that any new Ricks I've had the last 12 years, I have dissassembled, and meticulously Repolished with the Meguiars # 5
till all the "haze and mild swirl" that the factory process leaves is eliminated.When I get done, there is No after production residue left At All.You see the paint and color in it's full glory.But doing all this by hand Does make your wrists Very fatigued, and for me, I'm not doing a lot of this anymore, as I already get too much repetitive motion activity at my day job at the post office.You Have to watch out for this. If you're going to enjoy playing your guitar, it really helps to not have aching hands and wrists.
Well, if Meguiars polishes Do have silicone in them, then Mark must have some pretty good refinishing techniques, as he redid my old PBass for me last spring, and I'd used Lots of Meguiars
on it. Then again, Mark was the one who told me years ago you can[at least sometimes?] avoid the
silicone problems by using a vinyl sealer before doing the finishing.Also, the local shops here in Mpls. who I have had paint jobs done by the last 20 years, and who turned me onto Meguiars in the
first place have Never mentioned any problems with this stuff.I could believe some of the Waxes and sealers they make would have silicone.
on it. Then again, Mark was the one who told me years ago you can[at least sometimes?] avoid the
silicone problems by using a vinyl sealer before doing the finishing.Also, the local shops here in Mpls. who I have had paint jobs done by the last 20 years, and who turned me onto Meguiars in the
first place have Never mentioned any problems with this stuff.I could believe some of the Waxes and sealers they make would have silicone.
Most of the Meguiars bottles actually so.........
"contains NO silicone on them".
I have yet to have a problem with the 2 kinds of product that I did use ,but I like the 3M finesse-it better.
So maybe we can get some info straight from Meguiars.....anyone?
Lets see what the 'horse mouth' has to say.
"contains NO silicone on them".
I have yet to have a problem with the 2 kinds of product that I did use ,but I like the 3M finesse-it better.
So maybe we can get some info straight from Meguiars.....anyone?
Lets see what the 'horse mouth' has to say.
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
I am waiting on a reply to an inquiry to Meguiars.
In the mean time, I went to my shop and looked at the bottles of the product"in question".It actually says, On the Front [and back of bottle]
and I quote, "PAINTABLE".You can read it any way
you want, but if the Manufacturer doesn't know what their product is about, then Who Else has a right to make a negative claim?We will see What Else "The Source" says, as I asked some pretty specific questions about all this.More news at
11:00, now ,....a word from our sponsor...
In the mean time, I went to my shop and looked at the bottles of the product"in question".It actually says, On the Front [and back of bottle]
and I quote, "PAINTABLE".You can read it any way
you want, but if the Manufacturer doesn't know what their product is about, then Who Else has a right to make a negative claim?We will see What Else "The Source" says, as I asked some pretty specific questions about all this.More news at
11:00, now ,....a word from our sponsor...
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jetglow
I bought a product called NOVUS 2 after I talked to a number of people. I called 1-800-548-6872 and found the nearest dealer. When I talked to the NOVUS company, they told me that several guitar companies use this product before they are shipped from the factory. I bought some for $5.00 and used an old t-shirt to apply. IT WORKED A MIRACLE!!!!! It made the guitar look brand new!!!
I thought this info would help others and I appreciate everybody's input.
I thought this info would help others and I appreciate everybody's input.
Forgive if I "conjecture" here for a moment.John Hall had responded here the other day about
the Meguiars products containing silicone, and
that the use of these products would preclude the ability to refinish an instrument due to the nature of silicone's reactions with finishing materials. It's been established that, at least the Specific Meguiars products I mentioned,
#M-0516/in 16 oz.bottle[also known as #5]"New Car Glaze", and # M-0916 "Swirl Remover", 16 oz.bottle
[and also known as #9]Do Not contain silicone, and in fact the bottles Say, "Paintable".I'm thinking now that, as a general cautionary measure,John was discouraging your run-of-the-mill
do-it-yourselfers from trying to polish their instruments aftermarket, perhaps using Any old product to see how it worked, if they couldn't find Meguiars. From the standpoint of a New
Rickenbacker instrument, and the warranty situation, I agree there might be some concerns, say, if there was a legitimate finish problem, and the instrument was authorized to be sent back for factory attention.If an inappropriate product Was used, I agree, there Could be some problems,
and I see John's point.As it is, at least in the Specific case of what I was using and recommending,there Is no problem.I am also still awaiting an update and elaboration on the subject from Meguiars themselves,as I did send them a lengthy email inquiring about the subject.Whatever more I find out, I will report back here with the reply.
the Meguiars products containing silicone, and
that the use of these products would preclude the ability to refinish an instrument due to the nature of silicone's reactions with finishing materials. It's been established that, at least the Specific Meguiars products I mentioned,
#M-0516/in 16 oz.bottle[also known as #5]"New Car Glaze", and # M-0916 "Swirl Remover", 16 oz.bottle
[and also known as #9]Do Not contain silicone, and in fact the bottles Say, "Paintable".I'm thinking now that, as a general cautionary measure,John was discouraging your run-of-the-mill
do-it-yourselfers from trying to polish their instruments aftermarket, perhaps using Any old product to see how it worked, if they couldn't find Meguiars. From the standpoint of a New
Rickenbacker instrument, and the warranty situation, I agree there might be some concerns, say, if there was a legitimate finish problem, and the instrument was authorized to be sent back for factory attention.If an inappropriate product Was used, I agree, there Could be some problems,
and I see John's point.As it is, at least in the Specific case of what I was using and recommending,there Is no problem.I am also still awaiting an update and elaboration on the subject from Meguiars themselves,as I did send them a lengthy email inquiring about the subject.Whatever more I find out, I will report back here with the reply.