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Not another V63......!

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:56 pm
by bob_atherton

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:12 pm
by ken_swearingen
Bob,does the pickup have slugs or screw tops?In other words does it look like this?Image

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:32 pm
by thx1955
More Mapleglo ..... !!!

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:16 pm
by bob_atherton
ImageKen, you got me wondering. As all the ‘experts’ in the UK have drooled over the bass & all said “ wow, it’s got the early horseshoe” I assumed that it was magnetic, especially as the toaster is magnetic ( 100% sure about that one). As you can see it has slugs and is not magnetic, though it is an early shoe. The ‘M’ word has been taken out of the description now. It will make a rewind a lot easier now.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:18 am
by jps
Those are pole pieces in the bobbin so the horseshoes have to be magnetized.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:53 am
by bob_atherton
Oh, blimey... I am mega confused by all this.

I really don't want to sell the bass but am buying a new house and need every penny I can get my hands on.

Also if the horseshoe is magnetic I would love to say so in the description. Is there anyway to get a definitive ruling on this?

PS I always thought they were magnetic, but would hate to get this wrong.

All the best, Bob

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:46 am
by thx1955
Bob,
Your description in the auction reads fine, it's an early horse shoe and you mention that clearly.

I don't think mentioning that is has a magnetic shoe will detract much, if any from it's potential sale price.

It's a gorgeous looking v63, and the flight case is also really nice, is it a Calzone ? Had I not just bought my 72-4001 I'd go for it ..... !

Wonder how it would refinish ?

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:04 am
by ken_swearingen
It is a hi gain for sure nice early surround and shoes,bob ,that would make this bass a 4003s with vintage appointments,a prototype would have a magnetized horsey and walnut wings with longer headstock ,sorry not trying to burst bubbles.Plus a two piece neck early 4003s had this.http://www.rickbeat.com/gallery/eddupont/edcoll.jpg This is Eds proto v63.second from the left.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:23 am
by bob_atherton
Ken, you are going over old ground here. This bass is shown in the Smith book as a V63, this is not quite right, as I mentioned, it was made three months before the first V63 was sold.

It was obviously work in progress towards the V63, not pre production, but a prototype. This is what it is & that is the way that it is going to be sold. You don’t have to bid on it Ken.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:34 am
by ken_swearingen
Bob,someone added the vintage stuff,The bass in the smith book has a one piece neck with walnut wings and a square heal is your heal rounded? 4003 had high gains as yours does v63s never had that type of high gain.Iwould love to call my Chrysler a ferrari it is what it is a chrysler.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:45 am
by bob_atherton
Ken, I really don’t want to exchange blows, but you are giving me little option here.

THE BODY DETAIL SHOT IN THE SMITH BOOK IS MY BASS, THE ONE THAT IS NOW FOR SALE ON EBAY.

That is FACT. If you persist in allegations to the contrary I will be bound to contact the Forum Administration.

I have a genuine product that left the Rickenbacker factory in the configuration that it is now. Now I would call that a V63 prototype, frankly I don’t give a damn what you want to call it.

Bob

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:56 am
by ken_swearingen
Bob,simple question why does the bass in the smith book have walnut wings and yours doesn't?As for allegations i have made none IMO you are by facts misrepresenting a product,There are a half of dozen things on the bass that point to it being a 4003 nothing but a bunch of add on stuff to even remotely point to it being a v63....

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:01 am
by dave4004
Bob, the horseshoe should be easy to verify. The original magnetized horseshoe should look like the lower diagram here: http://www.rickenbacker.com/pdf/bpickups.pdf . But if the two visible top pieces are removable separately, it's the reissue horseshoe.

Does it have a regular serial number? If so, then I sure wouldn't regard it as a prototype unless John Hall personally confirmed it. You can't take production dates reported in a book as gospel.

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:18 am
by ken_swearingen
The shoes are pretty much the same except the metal used one wont hold a charge.easy way get a paper clip put it up to the shoes see if theres any attraction

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:50 am
by bob_atherton
Ken, I have calmed down a bit now. There are in fact TWO different basses in the Smith book. Mine is obviously not the one with walnut wings, but IS the one showing just the body.

If you are saying that my bass shown in the Smith book is not a prototype V63 then that is your personal, subjective opinion, and you are of course entitled to it. Given that the body shot in the Smith book is my bass, then I feel it is only right that I should be allowed to call it a V63 prototype.

The serial number relates to a 6 string guitar, which would also fit in with it being a 1 off and not a modified production instrument.

Best wishes, Bob