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My Beatles Imitation

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 7:50 am
by stanley
Another thread described the sound of the CW-12 as been closer to the 60s sound. I recently received my CW-12 after Mark Arnquist fixed its factory flaws. I have recorded a song with it called "No More Love". It is the 1st song in the list and this is the web site:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/musicology_music.htm

I was going for a George Harrison sound using The POD. To be honest, it was easy getting a McGuinn sound using the POD, but it didn't work with the song as well as The Beatles sound. I set The POD with the black face, but at the last minute used the Vox AC-30 model. Let me know if this is the right sound.

This a reprint of a post in Rick guitars, sorry for the duplication.
In any event I would welcome any critique regarding my tribute to GH and The Beatles.
J

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:55 am
by 64rick
Wow Julio! That reminds me more of the Beau Brummels than the Byrds or the Beatles.(That's a compliment).A well written catchy tune .Really good vocals and you nailed the 60's sound.Your rick sounds great!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 3:08 pm
by stanley
Frank:

Thanks for your kind words. I don't mind sounding like the Beau Brummels at all. I consider them to be Beatlesque and I always loved their harmonies.

Thanks again

Julio

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 5:08 pm
by admin
Very nice work Julio! Please tell us about your recording set-up.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 5:30 pm
by stanley
Peter:

Thanks for your remarks.

I have the CW 360 12 (both pups on)thru the POD going into a Mackie mixer and into a Delta-66 sound card on a one Gig ATH PC with two HDs. I used the POD settings suggested by Mark Arnquist who worked on the guitar. However, I used Vox AC30 rather than Fender black face modeling. The latter gave me a Byrds sound and I was looking for a GH tone. The vocals and Acoustic guitar (Gibson J160E) were done with a Shure SM58 mic plugged into the Mackie preamp. The bass was a Fender Precision going straight into POD using the LINE 6 Clean amp setting with some compression. The drums were made by pasting sound clips and individual hits. The kick and snare at the intro are Ludwig samples to keep everything as Beatlesque as possible. I used Cakewalk's Sonar for mixing and to add things such as reverb, Chorus, EQ, ect. I also used auto Tune to correct my bad flat singing. The mastering was done using a very old version of Sound Forge. Actually the only thing I did with SoundForge was to add loudness and minimal global compression. There is a chink guitar in the middle that was done with a Gretsch. The piano is part of the synths that are bundled with Sonar. It is called VSC and it sounds like a Roland canvas module which is used as a plug in.

Peter, I want to thank you profusely for having this site on the web!

Regards

Julio

Posted: Mon May 20, 2002 2:14 pm
by 64rick
Julio,where did you get your Ludwig hit samples?I really like the sound you got and would like to add them to my sample library.Your tune is still stuck in my head !Very catchy!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2002 5:07 pm
by stanley
Frank:

Thanks!

They are from a disk with wav and audio single hits. It is called the Drums Sound Palette. It works with a PC or a Mac and the only reason I bought it was because it was the cheapest one in the Big Fish Audio catalog. I believe it was $29.00 whereas most of the others were well over $100.00. It has hits from others including Gretsch kits.

J

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2002 8:29 am
by jaybyrd
Julio,

You really nailed the "George" sound in my book. That is one of the best Beatle sounds I have ever heard. I have been able to figure out some of it myself and I love playing along with my 360v64 12. Would you consider sharing the tablature with us?

jaybyrd

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2002 1:53 pm
by stanley
Jaybird:

I am humbled by your words. I will see if I can put this down on TAB. I will post again when ready.

J

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 3:38 pm
by jaybyrd
Julio:

I really don't need the whole tab. I didn't realize what a chore I had asked you to undertake. Sorry. If you will just tell me which chords you used, I can figure out where they go. Thanks again for sharing your music.

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:36 am
by cobrav
Julio,

I too would like to get a good GH sound. Can you give any more details about the knob settings and effects (and effects settings) that you used?

Chuck

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 8:00 am
by stanley
Jaybird:

I actually started to work on the tab, but I have little available time. Here are the chords:


Dmin Bb Dmin Bb
I don't believe what she says to me
Dmin Bb F
Don't understand the way she acts
Cmin7 F
And I don't believe in her
Cmin7 F
I suspect what she says
Cmin7 Dmin Bb
And I don't know the truth

She talks in rhyme and tells a lie
I don't ask why and that is OK

A7 Dmin
Is the fear of losing
A7 Dmin
Is the fear of knowing
C F
She doesn't love anymore
C
She doesn't love

The intro is Dmin to Bb; the bridge is Dmin to Bb7

I will try to post the tab of the licks and bridge, but I have a hard time putting it into a word processor. Perhaps I can scan the tab and paste it here as a jpg. However, I have never uploaded a jpg here.

Thanks again for your interest.

Do you like to write?
Do you play in a band? Do you play for fun?

Anyway, keep playing!

J

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 8:05 am
by stanley
Jaybird:

I cannot get the chord symbols to show above the words when one expects the chord change. I spaced it correctly on the draft, but it does not show the spacing on the post. In any event I hope this helps.

I am writing another 12 string tune and will soon post it.

Chuck:

When I get home today and check my POD settings I will post again.

J

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 8:52 am
by phaseshift
If you used a fixed-width font, you can try this, although it's a bit of a pain.



E             A                 B7
If you used a fixed-width font, you can try this.

Start the song with
\fixed{

End the song with
}
Also, count the number of spaces between the chords, and replace the spaces with \ch{nbsp}

The song will then appear in a fixed-width font like this!

So my code for the line above with the chords looks like this:


E\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}A\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}\ch{nbsp}B7
If you used a fixed-width font, you can try this.

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 9:07 am
by phaseshift
The reason your chords all bunched together is that HTML eliminates extra spaces.

I put five spaces between each word of this sentence.

But as you can see, it only displays with one space.
That's what all the \ch{nbsp} thingies are for. They're non-breaking spaces. Webmasters use them all the time, although they're a little different in HTML code.

The fixed font (\fixed{) guarantees that things will line up, regardless of whether the user has Verdana loaded on their system or not.