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2005 4003 vs older

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:24 am
by frode
I´m planning to get me a brand new rick. I´m used to my 1975 4001 and 1984 4003. I want a standard 4003JG. Does anyone know the main difference between new 4003 and those from early 80´s? I tried one at the store, and I felt it was some smaller than my old ones.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:27 am
by green_us90
In my experience, the more recent 4003 basses have larger body wings than the earlier 4003's and 4001's. Also, the neck is wider and thicker, front to back vs. the 4001.

To compare, I have a 1975 4001 and a 1997 4003.

The width at nut for the 4001 is 1 7/16".

Width of nut for 4003 is 1 3/4"

Body thickness is much the same, but the 4003 feels heavier.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:40 am
by ken_swearingen
If it feels smaller thats a good thing,the new high gains really sound good, very full,getting used to the neck for me is the whole battle other than a thicker neck that is uncomfortable for me the new 4003's are awesome.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:08 am
by henny
Indeed, I must agree with the other chaps, I find the newer necks a tad different. The 4003 put some weight on its neck.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:18 am
by jwr2
I really like the 4003 bass from the last 7 years ... some of the best they have ever made ... starting about 97-98 they went back to a 60's body shape and headstock shape ... the color of the fretboard and triangle inlays is very nice and the necks are strong and straight ... the pickups are hot and full and still maintain a treble bite and mid growl ...

I like newer basses ... no fretware, no yellowing, fewer scratches and dings, and more reliable electronics ...

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:41 am
by henry5
Quote: "Body thickness is much the same, but the 4003 feels heavier".

Whilst I'm sure that this is true of your particular basses Dave, it's not necessarily true across the board.

I've played many, many 4001s and several 4003s. The weight of both has varied enormously. A friend has a recent (2003) 4003 that is one of the two lightest Ricks I've ever played, much lighter than all but 1 of the 4001s I've owned. However I've played a couple of others that are extremely heavy, and from the same year. Depends on the individual instrument, not the model designation.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:51 am
by jwr2
the newer ones have more slender body wings ...

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:04 am
by henny
Which aren't to everybody's taste...

On the 4003, they're now extremely narrow, near hook-like.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:16 am
by cheyenne
I love the necks and pups on the current 4003s.

"Roundwounds"?? Nooooooo problem.

I just wish they'd reinstate the "S" model.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:24 am
by green_us90
Yeah, there is quite a bit of variability on the weight of assorted basses.

In my case I would say my 4001 is about 8 lbs where the 4003 is closer to 9 lbs.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:27 am
by kcole4001
Wider neck = perfect for becoming a 5 string.Image

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:35 am
by frode
I feel my 4001(1975) is more lighter than the 4003(1984). But the output gain and sound on the 4003 is much more powerful. I will soon try to bypass the 0047 cap on one of them to compare.

I still want a new rick where I´m the first owner, (and the only:-)) I hope they bring back black trim soon. Then I will bee the first in line to get it.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:32 pm
by jwr2
Kevin ... you got that right ... for me it is all about 5 strings on a bass ...

4001 basses sound really good with 4003 pickups and no .0047 capacitor ...

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:00 pm
by ken_swearingen
What we all want is a 4003s brand new in white with black hardware pickguard and trc.....Now that would be the s--t.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:25 pm
by jwr2
it is hard to beat a brand new unplayed 4003 jetglo ...