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Is this a copy?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:58 pm
by rickfan60
This is being sold as a copy but it looks pretty real in the ****** picture. It appears to be a '77 or later 4001. It does not have the usual tell-tale signs. Sergio?

http://cgi.ebay.com/70s-Lawsuit-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Beatles-McCartney_W0QQitemZ7362515632QQcategoryZ38080QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:21 pm
by atomic_punk
Hard to tell with only one pic....but you're right, it's a good one, need to look under the hood or at the outputs.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:24 pm
by rickfan60
The knob placement looks a little off but it could just be the shadows cast by the 10 o'clock lighting. I asked the seller for more pics.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:12 am
by rickaddict
The photo looks like a real Rick to me. Maybe he put up a photo of a real Rick but is selling a fake Rick. Then when he sends the fake one, he can claim that he stated in the auction that it was a faker and you knew it when you bid.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:25 am
by johnhall
This not only looks genuine, it also appears to have a genuine vintage warranty card hanging from it.

Indeed, this might not be the photo of the bass actually up for sale but because the owner declares it to be a fake, we had no choice but to mark it for deletion.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:49 am
by ricosound
John,
Thanks for looking out for us all. I wish you could better spend your time providing products and services so infringers wouldn't get a chance to capitalize on the demand. I can not believe how bold scamers and infringers have become.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:12 am
by rickfan60
The seller just offered it to me for $545. I asked for more pics. I'll post anything I get. Probably a fake auction.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:58 am
by atomic_punk
Ted, did you bid on it originally?

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:44 pm
by rickfan60
No, I was just curious because of how it looks in this picture....

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So I asked the seller for more pictures.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:47 pm
by rickfan60
JH is right about the hangtag. If you zoom in on it you can tell there is a Rickenbacker logo near the top.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:05 pm
by rickcrazy
Well, take a look at this:

www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearDetails.aspx?Item=845290

I knew I had seen that 4001 somewhere before.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:57 pm
by beatlefan
Nice work "Sherlock" Silva!

Like tryin' to throw a porkchop past a hungry dog...

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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:58 pm
by rikk
Great sloothing!

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:04 pm
by rickfan60
Damn, Sergio. You are indeed the man! I am guessing that the seller will not be sending me those pictures after all.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:07 pm
by rickfan60
It is back but with real pictures this time. Too bad the seller is keyword spamming again.

http://cgi.ebay.com/70s-not-a-rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Beatles-McCartney_W0QQitemZ7362810762QQcategoryZ38080QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem