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What tuners did geddy have on his 4001?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:13 pm
by nattiep
I can't tell.
Schaller M4s? Old grovers?
Not the best pic, but what're ya gonna do?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:40 pm
by rickfan60
They look like Grovers to me.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:00 pm
by ken_swearingen
They were wavy Grovers in that shot,but soon replaced them cause they fell apart.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:20 pm
by bob_atherton
I don’t get this Wavy Grover ‘thing’ . Two of my basses have wavy Grovers & IMO they are a poor design. It’s lucky that I don’t play in a heavy rock band any more as I don’t think the Grovers would survive more than a handful of gigs.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:27 pm
by ken_swearingen
Bob, your right but I don't think Ric. had a choice, Kluson, went out of business all of the sudden.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:59 am
by rickaddict
Are you sure they aren't Schaller's? I have a set of open-back Schaller's from the 70's that were a common mod for Ricks back then. They're really solid(and heavy). They have a prominent ridge down the middle of the keywind and large posts that require drilling the headstock holes out. I have definitely seen them in photos of Geddy Ricks in the past, but I can't tell so much in this photo.
On a second look at the photo...I see 1 inch spacing and what appears to be a raised-letter TRC, so I'm gonna say Schallers.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:35 am
by rickaddict
Here is a better shot of the Schallers I'm talking about:
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:55 am
by ken_swearingen
You might be right there Jeff I know he replaced them I don't know what he put on,they look similar to wavy grovers he would have taken off.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:02 am
by jwr2
Grovers suck ... they look funny and they fall apart ... they are too cheap to be on a Rickenbacker ...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:03 am
by jwr2
these days Geddy's 4001 basses sport schaller m4 tuners ... pretty much the same as what a 4004 has ...
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:10 am
by rickfan60
I had some open gear Grovers that looked a lot like the ones in above picture of Geddy. The Schaller pic posted by Jeff reminds me that I once had some like that too. I change my opinion to Schaller.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:17 am
by thinneckrick
Geddy used schaller tuners on his old rickys .
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:31 am
by bobcat
Grover's these days aren't bad though . . . probably because they don't make the same tuners. I'm using a set of Grover Titans on one of my basses, and they're just fine.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:41 am
by nattiep
Geddy uses those schallers on his Wal basses too.
http://walbasses.homestead.com/MachineHeads.html
See... up top.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:59 am
by nattiep