I've been considering getting a 330 or 360 sometime over the next year or so.
Does anybody play their 300 series ricks fingerstyle? If so, what tone can you get from it this way? My own experience in this department is quite limited: the only guitar I own currently is a takamine 12 string accoustic, which is great, but a bit of a different animal;) Normally I don;t use a pick but I suppose it's never a bad thing to practice.
In terms of tone preferences, mine are a bit ambivalent. Love the classic rick jangle, of course, but I also like bassy, warm jazzy tones of other semis (e.g. ES335) a great deal. My thought is to get a 330 or 360 at some point for sure. Depending on how versatile that can get in combination with whatever amp I can scare up, perhaps further purchases won't be necessary.
In my understanding, toaster pickups produce a truer "vintage chime" but high-gains are a bit more versatile. SO when the time comes, I'm guessing the high-gains would be the way to go.
Rick tones and fingerstyle playing?
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Rick tones and fingerstyle playing?
"The only worthwhile conquests are those wrested from ignorance"
-Napoleon
-Napoleon
My new 360 6 string w/high gains has a classic "jangle" to it. My older 335 6 string w/toasters doesn't exactly have "vintage chime", but a great sounding high end w/the bridge p/up.
When I use both p/ups together, I can coax a nice warm sound out of the 335 using the blend knob. If I want more bottom, I crank it toward the neck p/up. If I want more traditional Rick, I turn it back to add more bridge p/up. Believe it or not, I can get a warmer sound out of the toasters.
For true, true vintage chime, I think you might need to go to a Rick 12 w/toasters.
When I use both p/ups together, I can coax a nice warm sound out of the 335 using the blend knob. If I want more bottom, I crank it toward the neck p/up. If I want more traditional Rick, I turn it back to add more bridge p/up. Believe it or not, I can get a warmer sound out of the toasters.
For true, true vintage chime, I think you might need to go to a Rick 12 w/toasters.
What's weird is that any time I pick up a 6 string, it plays incredibly easliy even if it's a ****** guitar! But the downside. . . My fingers are used to 12 strings. . .consequently with the wussy strings installed in many guitar shops I tend to sharpen up notes erratically due to more finger pressure.
Initially I'm looking at a 6 string because
a) I don't one one of any variety, electric or accoustic!
b) More versatile. Yeah, it's possible to work through a lot of rock music with a 12 string accoustic, but something inevitably gets lost in translation.
c) Looks. A JG 360 has GOT to be the holy grail of indiepop guitars. "Classic looking" to me means Pete Buck, the Smithereens, and the Ramones as much as or more as the Beatles.
One option I've considered in the interests of "versatility" would be to get a 330/360 and put in a toaster bridge PU and a humbucker neck PU. But as I understand it, Ric's humbucker's don't work with coil taps because the two coils are side by side-not in front and behind, relative to the neck. With a tap you'd be "tapping" either the bass or treble string-coil - not realistically useful for most of us.
Initially I'm looking at a 6 string because
a) I don't one one of any variety, electric or accoustic!
b) More versatile. Yeah, it's possible to work through a lot of rock music with a 12 string accoustic, but something inevitably gets lost in translation.
c) Looks. A JG 360 has GOT to be the holy grail of indiepop guitars. "Classic looking" to me means Pete Buck, the Smithereens, and the Ramones as much as or more as the Beatles.
One option I've considered in the interests of "versatility" would be to get a 330/360 and put in a toaster bridge PU and a humbucker neck PU. But as I understand it, Ric's humbucker's don't work with coil taps because the two coils are side by side-not in front and behind, relative to the neck. With a tap you'd be "tapping" either the bass or treble string-coil - not realistically useful for most of us.
"The only worthwhile conquests are those wrested from ignorance"
-Napoleon
-Napoleon
Heres how the HB1(humnbucker) is. I just went through all this and the info was not to easy to come by.there are 2 coils side by side but obviously that has no hum cancelation capabilities, there are 2 more coils directly below those. Its like 4 3-string pickups like this
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There is a hard wired bridge between each pair of 3-string PU like
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The other 4 wires go to each solder lead on the back of the PU like
1---+---2
3---+---4
so in other words you can tap the coil, in fact both are tapped on my dakota. But the result is not very different from just the humbucker. Im already making planes to use my 2 switches to do something to create more of a tonal difference.
You do get a little bit brighter sound but it also cuts volume. I have been using the tap more on the bridge lately. but both will probably go, if I find something new and interesting.
the HB1 is an awsome PU as is - extreemly versitile.
JP
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There is a hard wired bridge between each pair of 3-string PU like
---+---
---+---
The other 4 wires go to each solder lead on the back of the PU like
1---+---2
3---+---4
so in other words you can tap the coil, in fact both are tapped on my dakota. But the result is not very different from just the humbucker. Im already making planes to use my 2 switches to do something to create more of a tonal difference.
You do get a little bit brighter sound but it also cuts volume. I have been using the tap more on the bridge lately. but both will probably go, if I find something new and interesting.
the HB1 is an awsome PU as is - extreemly versitile.
JP
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profjeff
I have a sound clip on my website of a 360/6 being played fingerstyle through a Vox AC 15. Check it out.
http://home.attbi.com/~drjeffreyb
http://home.attbi.com/~drjeffreyb
Thanks Jeff!
NIce sound on that! There's no denying it's a rick but it works! Cool!
After some hard research (Hah! - more like goofing off!) suspicions have been confirmed - my own physical approach to the instrument (fingerhacking) sounds much better on just about any semi (Rick, gibsonesque stuff) than solidbodies, espec. strats
NIce sound on that! There's no denying it's a rick but it works! Cool!
After some hard research (Hah! - more like goofing off!) suspicions have been confirmed - my own physical approach to the instrument (fingerhacking) sounds much better on just about any semi (Rick, gibsonesque stuff) than solidbodies, espec. strats
"The only worthwhile conquests are those wrested from ignorance"
-Napoleon
-Napoleon