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Hey Beatleband guys- Voice doubler?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:38 am
by chingnchime
To Ronn and some of the others in Beatle-related bands-
As we all know, one of the features of the Beatles recordings was the double-tracked vocals, for me especially John's. His voice had such a great cutting quality it sounded great doubled.
Anyway, I'm hoping to try to recreate that live. Can anybody recommend a GOOD doubler that doesn't sound too phony? Naturally, it would be better to have a real voice, but can anyone recommend a commercial brand and model?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:49 am
by iamthebassman
We have an old Alesis rack unit that I have no idea what model it is, but I'm sure it's discontinued. Works just fine.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:51 am
by brammy
Good question, Steve... I'm interested to see what people say.

I see this one: TC Helicon VoiceDoubler

http://www.rmcaudio.com/tc_electronics/voicedoubler.htm

... and at $850 it had BETTER be good!

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:56 pm
by qmoder
I have one in my Yamaha 24mg14fx Pa board.

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:17 am
by brammy
I have one in my Yamaha EMX5000-12 mixer but it doesn't seem to do all that much.

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:45 pm
by chingnchime
Uh, guys...I really don't want to buy a new mixer just to get a voice doubler. I was talking about a stand-alone unit. thanks.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:26 pm
by jwh
Hi Steve.
I've used a Digitech "Vocalist" in the past and it worked great for doubling and adding harmonies. You can probably get one on ebay for around $100.00.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:38 pm
by joeyr
I still have my Digitech Studio Vocalist. It works great -- for double track and harmonies (the harmonies take a lot of tweaking, but that's life). I think it was the best sounding model they ever made. You can get them CHEAP on Ebay

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:55 pm
by brammy
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"Features Up to 5 part harmony generation including input vocal"

I've never tried one of these. So whats the deal... you sing in and out comes a 3, 4 or even 5 part harmony? Does it really sound decent?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:45 pm
by jwh
Ya, unless you're willing to spend a lot more money, a Digitech is your best bet. You will probably be more interested in the models they have desigined for live performance.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:34 pm
by brammy
Do you have the model numbers of those?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:49 pm
by jwh

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:46 pm
by revolver323
We had some kind of "Vocal Doubler" in my band back in 1975. I can't recall the brand name, but it was capable of only a very short delay -- less than 5 milliseconds if I recall. Pushed to the limit, it added a lot of noise. It worked fine except that it tended to double everything, not just the vocals because of leakage through the stage mics. This had a very annoying effect on things like hi-hats, and since disco was in back then, our drummer played a lot of 16th notes on the hi-hats.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:14 pm
by jwh
TC Helicon makes a VoiceLive Vocal Floor Processor
which is REALLY NICE but cost quite a bit more.