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Martin Turner with 21 fret

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:19 am
by jayfbv
One of these should work for you. Wishbone Ash, 1971:

http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0E02HN1HEA0B3095MCPENYBQJN
or
http://media.putfile.com/Wishbone-Ash---Jailbait---video

Pretty good lip and riff sync. Turner starts with fingers and ends with a pick...go figure.

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:54 am
by bob_atherton
I never thought I'd say this but hearing Wishbone Ash and seeing Martin Turner on a RIC looks all wrong. I fancy his T Bird had a bit more growl as well.

Very nice bass though. What happened to it?

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:02 am
by jnbass
???

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:16 am
by jayfbv
I noticed him doing the Chuck Berry chugga-chugga way up the neck during some of the dual lead/trading licks parts. I'm not sure a Tbird would sound as good for that.

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:07 am
by leftyguitars
I posted on this last year. The DVD "Wishbone Ash - Phoenix Rising" has this on and an excellent "Vas Dis" taken from the same BBC tapes from 1971. Superb DVD if you like WA. We toured with them once, a great band!

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:10 am
by loendmaestro
That was great! I wonder if he played the RIck on the first LP. That's my fave.

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:29 am
by leftyguitars
I can assure you that he did Chris, I was with them at the time.

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:55 pm
by loendmaestro
I knew I always loved "Handy" & "Phoenix" for a reason....

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:40 pm
by leftyguitars
Most of the second album was a 4001/21 fretter too.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:30 am
by bob_atherton
Ahhhh, well that blows my theory that the TBird sounded a bit more growly!!!!

It's just that i grew up with photos of WA on my bedroom wall with the Tbird. In fact the reason that I got a RIC in '74 was that there was no way I could afford the Gibbo. The '74 4001 wasn't such a bad compromise though...!

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:58 am
by eatswodo
Great video - Old Grey Whistle Test, if I'm not mistaken?

The first 'real' concert I ever saw was Wishbone Ash in 1970 or 1971, in Nottingham (IIRC). A band called Red Dirt opened, then WA, and Mott the Hoople was the headliner. Handy and Phoenix, to this day, remain among my all time favourites.

I have no recollection of what Martin Turner was playing then - I've always associated him with the TBird, primarily because that's what he's pictured playing on the inside of the cover of Argus.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:35 am
by ilan
That bass looks so good, I almost don't care what it sounds like.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:06 am
by leftyguitars
David, I was there, I was a roadie for Mott the Hoople at the time!

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:58 am
by bob_atherton
Peter, I am so envious! Do you think we could do one of those Mr Spock mind meld things...?

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:39 pm
by eatswodo
Peter - that's amazing. I was 15, and didn't even know what a roadie was Image

I'm sure you have some good tales to tell!