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I love my Warwick bass, that has been a main bass for the last 3years, but after hearing news of Germany boycotting America and American products (that may include Rickenbackers), and becoming almost and enemy over the current war in Iraq, I find myself not wanting to support them in any way. Even though they have already benefited from my purchase, and I would not change that, I LOVE my Warwick. I am thinking of retiring my Warwick from live gigs and using My 4003s/5 exclusivley and another Rick for a backup. I love the Warwick for the slap funk and the great active preamp, But I think I can adjust and tweak my Rickenbacker for my different tone needs.. Scerw Germany, France, and who ever else is agianst us.. More POW's have just been executed by the Iraqi scum troops.. We have our good people over there who have died for freedom... The case for this war has already been settled many times over and it has already started, so those who are agianst it need to at least support our troops!!!! And if I had a Porsche or BMW I would park it in the garage until they changed their mind... SCREW THEM!!!!

....and maybe Rickenbacker should, at some point, drop using (German made) Shaller tuners and use (Kluson- if they sill exist) Grover or Gotoh.. If this escaltes more in Germany and elsewere....get their companies hurting!!!

One more thing, and I am done....Question: Does not Warwick import Rickenbackers into Germany over there????????
I saw that somewhere, but can't remember where. Maybe if they stop doing that, then things should get nasty, like, not using their products.. how's that....I just love Warwicks and It breaks my heart to not play it, but, oh well!

Do whatever you feel you must, but please spare the political rhetoric.

If you avoid all products from countries who do not agree with US foreign policy you will soon find yourself unable to function.

All political stuff aside, I never took to Warwick basses. Every time I see one, words like 'tragically unfashionable', 'uncommercial styling', 'vile shaped' and so on come to my mind.
The Rickenbacker 4000 series bass design is 40+ years old, and to me it continues to knock spots off every current and past bass guitar design. End of line.

Yes - please spare us the pro- or anti- propaganda.

I would simply say that we should all pray/wish/work for minimum loss of life for people of all uniforms. War, even a justified war (which this may or may not be depending on your outlook), is never a good thing. I would hope everyone could agree to that.

I second that thought Dave!

Whatever happened to being musicians? If you need to use something to play music, then by all means use it! Like all material things, musical instruments absorb a certain kind of energy that's part of the owner, so treat your instruments (like a uhm... ehh a Warwick Bass) like its part of you. That's why some guitars, especially the old ones, "have songs in them" and are "user friendly" because they have absorbed alot of musical energy from its previous owner(s) - though I doubt everyone will agree with me on this

Ok so you don't agree with me? Why don't we research all the songs that used any and all musical instruments from let's say ...Germany.... and let's give it a point not to listen or buy them anymore - ever! Or until "they change their minds". How's that?

Reminds me of a town who wanted to buy a tractor during the early 90's. They bought a John Deere coz they wanted an "american" piece of equipment and rejected a Komatsu. Turns out the former was made in Japan and the latter was made within the CONUS.

Someday, when I have to get rid of my Rics, I'd like to get rid of them knowing it will be played by someone else who also like Rics and not because of anything else.

Since when did being a musician mean that one checks one's sense of outrage at the door? Or that one should feel free to tell another musician to "spare them" from expressing what is obviously a passionately held opinion?

"Since when did being a musician mean that one checks one's sense of outrage at the door? Or that one should feel free to tell another musician to "spare them" from expressing what is obviously a passionately held opinion? "

On this particular issue. . .
We all have passionately held opinions which don;t all agree. If everybody expressed them, we'd have a useless,annoying and distracting flame war. Plenty of websites do that, if you're interested. This one is nice because it hasn't been infected (yet)

Lidsay,

*"I LOVE my Warwick"*

I was merely saying that if he really meant what he said, he is not going to "retire" the bass merely because its made in ...... well , sorry I guess I'm not him.

*"Or that one should feel free to tell another musician to "spare them" from expressing what is obviously a passionately held opinion?"*


All the same then, kinda like not using or "sparing" a piece of musical equipment not for its musical properties but because is made in... sorry again, I forgot -I'm not him.

cheers
-John

PS Like Sergio, I'm not a Warwick fan either...

FIN

[Since when did being a musician mean that one checks one's sense of outrage at the door? Or that one should feel free to tell another musician to "spare them" from expressing what is obviously a passionately held opinion?

Because this is a forum for all things Rickenbacker, not a political forum. Because forum participants come from many countries and no doubt have different political views, but this isn't the place to air them. And in case you haven't noticed, this site is owned by a Canadian. Just because this is an English-language board doesn't mean that everyone who posts here is from the US or agrees with US policy.

Politics is everything it seems, these days, but my point was not to get political propaganda started, but to protest in a little, probably insignificant way, the anti-american sentiment from around the world. My country, the USA, are not the bad guys. And besides I love my Rickenbackers and they have been a little neglected lately from gigs, not anymore...

Yes, can we spare the politics please and get back to talking guitars? We all have our own opinions, which is the basis of a free society. You should be thankful and respectful that others have differing views, as they can enrich your life by challenging your own.

As for the Warwick, I'm not a fan of them either, but their country of origin has nothing to do with it.

"Politics is everything it seems, these days, but my point was not to get political propaganda started, but to protest in a little, probably insignificant way, the anti-american sentiment from around the world. My country, the USA, are not the bad guys."

Landon, that IS a statement of political propoganda. Can we *please* not have that (expressing any "side"'s point of view) on the Rickenbacker forum? Thanks.

Oh wah.....