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1961 Photo, 1962 Hofner (?)

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:56 pm
by mgauction
Here is a signed photo of the Beatles that is coming up for auction. The seller claims the photo was taken December 1961, but Paul is holding his 1962, right? Or am I wrong? Any thoughts here?

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The description reads: "In December of 1961, Brian Epstien called Albert Marrion and asked him if he could take some pictures of a band he had recently become the manager of. Brian and The Beatles showed up at Marrion's studio in Wallesy on Sunday, December 17, 1961. Many photographs were taken, but in the end only sixteen exist today and the rest, as they say, is history. Fantastic vintage glossy 8.5 x 6.5 Albert Marrion group photo of the Fab Four, taken in December of 1961 during the Beatles first professional photo session, with the band clad in their leather outfits and holding their instruments, with original drummer Pete Best behind his kit, signed and inscribed in red ballpoint “To Meron, Love from John Lennon xx,” “Love to Meron from George Harrison xxxx,” “To Meron love from Paul McCartney xxx,” and “Lots of love to Meron from Pete Best xxx.” Best was the original Beatles drummer and was replaced by Ringo Starr in August of 1962. At the time of this photo the Beatles had not yet tasted fame on a nationwide or international level as of yet, but looking into their eyes, you can see the steely determination in John’s eyes and the intensity in George’s, while Paul continues to look cute. Best, possibly realizing the events to come, looks downtrodden and distracted. Accompanied by a certificate of authenticity from Beatles expert Frank Caiazzo, stating the signatures date from early 1962. In fine condition, with scattered light creasing and surface marks to image side, as well as impressions from signatures on reverse and some light bends and creases to signature side as well as photographer’s stamp to center, with a bit of stamp just touching Best’s signature. Certain to excite any diehard Beatles fan with a chance to acquire original Fab Four signatures all together."

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:17 pm
by route66guitars
It seems that the latest version of the story is that Paul custom ordered the bass from Steinway Music in Hamburg in 1961 while Stu was still in the band, but after he announced his planned departure. There now appears to be more overlap between the two bass players than the folklore suggested.

Nice autographed item. What are they estimating it's range to be?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:18 pm
by leftybass
Mike, that is his first Hofner 500/1, which is a '61 by all accounts, yes. I can't tell whether Lennon's 325 still has the Kauffman and original knobs, the pic is small on the 'ol laptop (I'm out of town, no big screen for me eyes...)

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:23 pm
by mgauction
Ah! So then if this is a '61 then the story holds true.

R&R, Scott. They just have a MB of $1000. I'm sure that it has exceeded even at this early stage.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:36 pm
by bee_atles
I think I can see the Bigsby arm sitting off the end of John's guitar.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:13 pm
by jeff
The exact date on this photo session by Albert Marrion was December 17th, 1961. I should know because I own 7 more of these photos besides the one pictured above which were taken from the original negatives.