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1974 4000 JG in ebay
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 8:13 pm
by rictified
has Grovers and a silk screened truss rod cover with just "Made in USA" on it no model number, pictures aren't very clear and no serial #'s but is supposed to be Jan. 1974, looks it. High gain pickup. It is hard to tell how the paint is the photos are so bad.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 1:07 am
by ojobob2
That bass looks great, 4000's are always a bit of a curiousity i think.
,,,,,seeing that bass just makes me want my jetglo 1973 4001 even more Bob,

its not fair
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 5:52 am
by rictified
Yeah, I'd love to get an old 4000 with a horseshoe, ever since I found out that an old song called "Liar Liar" was played with a 4000. It's by I think "The Castaways" if you ever want to check it out, Dave Westheimer knows for sure. Unbelievable sound, I can still hear it in my mind from 37 (?) years ago (the oldies stations playing it helps also)
You gotta love those old basses. That is a real nice bass you are getting too.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 5:58 am
by ojobob2
Bob - i know that song, its on a film soundtrack i have.
Its funny, but those really early 4000's look "complete", but the later ones like that one on ebay look strange, they are like a 4001 with all the bits missing. I saw one identical to that one here in London. Im not sure i like those 4000's they look very plain. With that big white pickguard with next to nothing on it.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:02 am
by rictified
Yeah, I think it's the pickguard too, I like the old ones a lot better. Theres a 1960 MG 4000B (?) for $4000.00 a Gbase.com that I'm drooling over but I'm broke right now.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:09 am
by ojobob2
Those old old ones are real nice looking, its fun to see a 4000 series bass that looks really different.
Which reminds me, you know how people complain about the pain in the arse bridge? and some think modernising it would ruin everything (?), well originally the 4000's didnt even have that bridge did they!

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:35 am
by dave4004
Dick Roby on the far left with his 4000:
Dick Roby a couple of years ago:
Finally, a link to a pic on this site of Castaways' guitarist Bob Folschow with his 365:
http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/mccorp/folschow.html
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:41 am
by rictified
Do you know him Dave? Are they still together? I couldn't access their homepage. Yeah, Owen the real old ones had those bridges that you could engage the mute or not, I think anyway. I want one of those.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:42 am
by dave4004
Bob, I'm getting off topic here, but are you familiar with the old Nuggets collection? It was originally released in the early 70s but redone on CD by Rhino a few years ago. You can get it cheaper from Amazon, but here's a Rhino link:
http://www.rhino.com/store/ProductDetail.lasso?Number=75466 . Lots of great stuff here. And then there's the "Nuggets from Nuggets", a single CD with 20 from the big set:
http://www.rhino.com/store/ProductDetail.lasso?Number=76661 . "Liar Liar" is on both.
You young whippersnappers might not understand. But I forgive you.

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:49 am
by dave4004
Bob, I'll have to ask a friend since I no longer live in Minnesota, but I think they still do get together and play an event once or twice a year. For a while, maybe back in the early 90s, there was some sort of rift, Dick led one group and Jim Donna (keyboards) led another version. I don't know him personally.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:02 am
by rictified
I got to get that CD, I have had friends who had the LP way back, I love that old stuff. Damn kids nowadays wouldn't know good music if it bit them on the A@@ LOL. Frank Sinatra, now HE could sing, THAT was music. OK Dad, yup, I know it, see ya. 1965 in my family living room, Ed Sullivan Show, my father: "Whos that? The Rolling What??!! Well they stink!". Of course they got much better in my eyes at that moment.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:16 am
by ojobob2
Im a damn kid, and i think music of yesterday is amazing.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:48 pm
by rictified
it was a joke Owen as I'm sure you know, I'm still a kid too
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:51 pm
by basshawk
I don't have any pictures to put up right now, but if you go to //
www.radiosurfers.net and look under "past venues", there are some pics of me playing my 4000 (April '68). I had to put a vintage horseshoe on it because the original was long gone before I acquired it. I still need to have a pick guard made for it, just need to send the original to Don so he can make me one from it.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:18 pm
by rictified
What is wrong with the original Randy? Nice bass by the way, how does it sound?