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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:58 pm
by johnallg
http://www.capsulemusic.com/retail/detail.asp?ID=3117
The maple wood and FG coloring looks like an Ibanez lawsuit to me. Anyone confirm this?
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:03 pm
by s4001
Looks okay to me. But there's others with sharper eyes than I.
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:07 pm
by relayer4u
The inlays look too large and abalone like, plus the bridge pickup surround seems too thin at the top. Don't like the look of the tuners either.
But I have been wrong before!
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:08 pm
by jps
Looks okay to me.
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:45 pm
by ajish4
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:09 pm
by s4001
I'm pretty sure that other one is a fake, though.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:15 am
by rickcrazy
The FG 4001 is the real thing.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:51 am
by 12stringbassist
The second one doesn't 'pretend to be a Ric' - but
Ric must be getting sick of seeing their shapes re-used.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:36 am
by 86kubicki
The one at Capsule Music looks like the real thing. They're one of the better "vintage" shops in Toronto and should know their stuff.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:25 am
by jingle_jangle
One of my favorite indicators of a faker is the color of the fretboard wood and inlays. This one looks spot-on to be genuine.
Rickenfaker?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:34 am
by bob_the_bass
First one is genuine
Second one is a joke
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:45 am
by morrow
They have had quite a number of Rics go through Capsule over the years although it's been a while since they posted one. I would hope they would spot a faker. I don't think they would pass off a copy as the real thing.
Most fireglo 4001 basses have a nice amber tint to them now but sometimes the photograph does not really represent the actual colour.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:53 am
by marc61
Yes, but the second one comes in 4.5 or 6 string...
It's funny..they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, yet here is a German guitar maker, who is trying to make a unique high quality instrument, but chooses to copy other makes styles.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:16 am
by rickcrazy
Hmm... I agree.
Yesterday a local guy brought his early '70s Kay "4001" over for some adjustments and repairs. Besides being a copy, the instrument screams "poor quality". It looks almost homemade. Only the pickups on it, though they're microphonic and not very pleasant to look at, do have some quality, meaning they're hot and sound good. If I remember correctly, Kay did produce some nice, original instruments in the '60s and maybe '50s. Why did they then decide to start producing poor quality copies? Is the company still around? (I don't believe so)
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:42 am
by ilan
"... here is a German guitar maker, who is trying to make a unique high quality instrument, but chooses to copy other makes styles"
Maybe they think they can improve on the original design, like Lull, Sadowsky etc. building boutique Fender style basses. They do so not because they want to copy other make's style, or because they can't come up with their own design, but simply because that is what their customers ask them to build.
Compared to many original-design boutique basses, usually with wild "organic" shapes or those single-cutaway high-ends with those horrid lumps, you have to admit this one looks much better.
