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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:27 am
by ilan
I need a set urgently. They are out of stock on the RIC website and Mike Parks' website. Does anyone have a spare set they can sell? Or a lead where I can find it? Thanks!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:56 am
by jwr2
I have one extra rod and one broken one ... somewhere in a box in my basement
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:15 am
by rickfan60
I can make you a set. Do you have all of the other hardware?
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:04 am
by ilan
Ted, you mean the acorn nuts, washers, etc.? I have them.
With the rods pulled out, sighting down the neck it's arrow straight.
This is how the rods look now. Can they be straightened? Will they be strong enough?

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:25 am
by markbass99
I straightened mine out and had good results. Just make sure you threads are nice and clean and you have good wood at both ends of the neck.
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:41 am
by ilan
Mark, how long did it take you to straighten one rod?
And the paper wrap - do I need to wrap the rods before I insert them back into the neck?
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:55 am
by markbass99
See post in tech section.
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:24 pm
by ilan
Update in "the Vibrola" tech forum. In short: JH says that the rods are supposed to be bent, Mark Gilbert suggests a way to make sure they are positioned correctly, and it all works out!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:46 pm
by markbass99
I'm glad it's working for you. I can see how bent rods installed in the backbow direction can counteract a neck that has a natural upbow. I don't think they need to be bent to work, a pair of straight rods should be able to balance the tension of the strings in most neck situations.
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:22 pm
by ilan
No doubt about that. When you buy a new set (when they're in stock...) they are straight. And if they eventually flip over, I'll pull them out again and straighten them.
Help! Anyone has a spare set of post-85 rods?
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:28 pm
by rickfan60
As long as the threads are in good shape they should be ok. Was there a problem that made you think they were not working?
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:45 pm
by ilan
The rods were maxed out, I was afraid to exert more force on the nuts, and although I did set the neck to zero relief, I could do this only with very low-tension TI Jazz Rounds. It was OK but I wanted it to be perfect. And I wanted to install medium gauge strings, which on a post-'85 4003 shouldn't be a problem.
I guess the problem was that the rods flipped over, to an up-bow position.