What to do with a faker?

Vintage, Modern, V & C series, Fretless, Signature & Special Editions

Moderators: rickenbrother, ajish4

Post Reply
jakeox
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:40 am
Contact:

What to do with a faker?

Post by jakeox »

So now that I'm finally a member of the Ric owner club, I have a question that maybe the forum can help me out with: what to do with my other bass?

Normally, this would not be an interesting question, but here's why I'm asking -- it's a Rickenfaker. It's never been passed off as the real thing (the TRC says Ibanez, after all, though it's in a similar font), and it actually sounds pretty good, but it's still a copy. It dates to September 1977, so it'd been around a while before I got it.

This was given to me as my first bass some 15 years ago, long before I knew anything about basses. I didn't pick it because it was a Ric copy, but because it sounded better than the $80 cheapie that was my other option.

I'm tempted to keep it for situations where I'm not sure I want to bring the Ric. And at the very least, it's a different finish (MapleGlo -- or more accurately MapleHo) than my AutumnGlo Ric. I would refer to them as blonde and brunette, but my wife is blonde and prefers not to be associated with the faker. (Plus then I'd have to get a FG redhead to complete the set.)

What's the ethical thing to do here? Keep it as a backup for my real Ric? Find a young bassist and give it away for free? Bring it onstage and smash the hell out of it? Suggestions are appreciated.
"I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird." - F. Zappa
User avatar
atomic_punk
Senior Member
Posts: 5093
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:00 am
Contact:

Post by atomic_punk »

"what do you do with a witch?" "Burn Her!!!"
"They make great f***'n basses". - Lemmy, NAMM 2009
jakeox
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:40 am
Contact:

Post by jakeox »

Well, I can hardly build a bridge out of her.
"I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird." - F. Zappa
User avatar
rickenbrother
RRF Moderator
Posts: 13114
Joined: Sun May 26, 2002 5:00 am

Post by rickenbrother »

Jake, bringing it on stage and smashing it would be fine, just acknowledge the audience that it's not a real Rick, because if someone like me was in the audience and saw you smash a real Rick, they would be horribly upset with you!!
The JETGLO finish name should be officially changed to JETGLO ROCKS! :-)
User avatar
thx1955
Veteran RRF member
Posts: 2824
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:00 am
Contact:

Post by thx1955 »

If you've got 15 years of good service out of her, then a graceful retirement is a good plan, and as you say keep her for situations where at present you may not be comfortable taking your new real Ric.

Fake or not, no instrument deserves to end it days being smashed to pieces.

At some point you may (or already do) have, kids, and they may want to learn to play Bass, starting out on one of your precious Ric's would not be prudent but would be a good use for this one.

When my son wanted to learn bass I bought him an old Peavy to learn on as there was no way I was letting him near one of my Rics as a beginner.
"It's Red Jim, but not as we know it...."
User avatar
berth
RRF Consultant
Posts: 1723
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:06 am
Contact:

Post by berth »

If I knew what I know now I would have never sold my first bass. I would have liked to still have it even though it was just a squier katana.
68 4001|73 4001 MG|75 4000 MG|81 4001S AZG|86 4003 MID/BT|86 4003 Shadow|88 4003s Blackstar|89 4003 Grey/BT FL|93 4004 Ci|96 4003S/8 FG|98 4003S/5 JG|05 650D|05 4004Cii/5 TG|08 660/12 JG|18 4003S/5 MID|19 4003S/5 WAL ||TR35B|RB 30||
alanz
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1197
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:58 pm
Contact:

Post by alanz »

My personal rule is to never sell an instrument, so I say "Keep it."

If you want to sell it you'll have to do it quietly and off the internet.
Listen to that sustain!
jakeox
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:40 am
Contact:

Post by jakeox »

What a wide range of responses! I was curious to see what Ric fanatics thought should be done with a faker -- I know that selling them is generally difficult as well as frowned upon, but the topic of already-owned fakers doesn't seem to come up too often. I'm enjoying hearing all of the different perspectives, and the fact that it was my first bass does add a little heft to the decision.

Jim, great point about the kid -- I have one on the way in < 2 months, so I'll get him started on the faker as soon as he can sit up on his own. He can throw up on that one if he wants to (I'm pretty sure I have).

It might also be a good instrument to test out some of the do-it-yourself urges I get from time to time.
"I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird." - F. Zappa
kcole4001
Senior Member
Posts: 3368
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:07 pm

Post by kcole4001 »

If you had a faker guitar you could bandsaw the two & make your own version of the Mike Rutherford doubleneck!
Image

Seriously, letting the new addition to the family start playing is probably wisest, and it probably has some sentimental value.
There's really no sense in destroying a working instrument, and lots of kids would love to have something decent to start on.
Plus five minus five!
just_bassics
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1240
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:12 am

Post by just_bassics »

I would keep my first guitar forever no matter what it was. That's just me
You can never own too many guitars!
User avatar
geddeeee
Intermediate Member
Posts: 524
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:11 pm

Post by geddeeee »

I say keep it. Bruce Foxton from The Jam started off with an Ibanez 'Rickenfaker'...
What d'ya mean... the bass is TOO loud!
User avatar
bobcat
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1319
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:54 pm

Post by bobcat »

"If you had a faker guitar you could bandsaw the two & make your own version of the Mike Rutherford doubleneck!"

I support this one wholeheartedly.
kcole4001
Senior Member
Posts: 3368
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:07 pm

Post by kcole4001 »

My first bass was a plywood POS. I still have it (the body, anyway) but it's in the attic of my mom's garage.
I seem to have lost the hardware during a move.
No great loss.
Plus five minus five!
jakeox
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:40 am
Contact:

Post by jakeox »

Oooh -- doubleneck. I am in the process of learning guitar.
"I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird." - F. Zappa
kcole4001
Senior Member
Posts: 3368
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:07 pm

Post by kcole4001 »

They're heavy, but the wow factor is pretty high when you take 'em out for gigs!
And it's gotta be cheaper than buying one!
Image
Image
Plus five minus five!
Post Reply

Return to “Rickenbacker Basses: by Joey Vasco & Tony Cabibe”