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Faker...

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:58 am
by bob_atherton
Sorry Guys, still not sure what to do when we find a faker? Has John Hall given us info on what action to take?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130083290460&fromMakeTrack=true

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:02 am
by xakattack
i read a while back to send it to: [email protected]

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:05 am
by sowhat
"Buy it, then burn it". Kiddin'. That one looks nice, imo. If we forget it's a faker, it looks very nice, imo.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:06 am
by bob_atherton
http://cgi.ebay.com/CMI-Bass-Guitar-80s-Made-in-Japan-Rickenbacker-Copy_W0QQitemZ260090658914QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4713QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hi Zack, thanks for that link, but it didn't work for me, got caught up in Word Editor or whatever. Here's another faker for the fire.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:10 am
by bob_atherton

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:35 am
by sowhat
Nah, that one looks as if it was made of what was at hand...

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:00 am
by rickcrazy
Yeah. It's a Kay, made in the early '70s I believe. I worked on one of those a couple months back. Very crudely made indeed. The (unbearably microphonic) pickups were hot and great-sounding though. Came in at approx. 4.0 K.
But I certainly would rather go after the guy currently selling fake Rick TRCs on Ebay. His sales pitch makes me wanna throw up, too!

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:26 am
by gareth
I would say that out of all three. only the second is a true faker. The first is not a copy of any RIC, though it may have some trade dress issues in the body styling. With the relationship Shaftsbury and RIC had at some point it may not be a problem. I suspect Mr. Hall will know what to do.

The second is a clear copy. It's pretty up front about it too.

The third appears to have been used to dig a vegetable patch with. I doubt the RIC would want to pursue it at all. It would be embarassing to associate it with the company in any way, even as a bad copy.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:18 am
by johnhall
All thhree are clear infringements of various trademarks and have been marked for deletion by eBay.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:53 am
by bob_atherton
John, what do I do if I find more fakers like these? I can just post here again if you would like or is it frankly a pain to deal with this stuff?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:28 am
by rikk
The Kay looks like a Kindergartener made it. You'd have to be pretty drunk to think that's a real RIC.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:58 am
by johnhall
It is a pain for us to deal with, but it's always appreciated when you provide a report to [email protected], as suggested above.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:19 am
by gareth
>All thhree are clear infringements of various trademarks and have been marked for deletion by eBay.

There you go. That's why you have a successful company, and I have a chronic 4000 series collecting habit. Nice work Mr. H

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:34 pm
by sowhat
Heeere we go again... (not a bass, though, but the copy made by them i've seen for sale here was of a 4003, iirc...)

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:51 pm
by johnallg
Gone!