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Townshend's new "Computer Music" project

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:33 am
by doctorwho
Rocker Townshend unveils song composing software

By Sylvia Westall Wed Apr 25, 6:45 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - British rocker Pete Townshend on Wednesday unveiled an Internet-based software program that will help music fans compose personalized tracks at the click of a button.

The Who guitarist/songwriter said that with a voice recording, a digital image and a rhythm clapped into a microphone, his new "Method" software will create spontaneous digital music and allow anyone to be a composer, and possibly a rock star.

"You can put data in and get a piece of music out. It's as simple as that," said Townshend, a technical wizard who pioneered the use of the synthesizer more than 35 years ago on the classic tunes "Won't Get Fooled Again" and "Baba O'Riley."

The project, which started percolating during his art school days in the 1960s, was developed by mathematician/composer Lawrence Ball and software developer Dave Snowdon.

From May 1, users will be able to get free access to the Web site (http://www.lifehouse-method.com) for three months, and will be able to compose instrumental tracks that they can e-mail or post on their Web sites. From August 1, it will become a subscription-based service.

Composers such as Townshend and Ball will also take some of the tracks and add instruments and rhythms, to create more complex pieces that could become the basis of future albums.

"It represents a whole new level of rock integration, blending rock and psychedelia with classical and experimental music," Ball said.

Townshend said he hopes the Web site will enable more people to become composers and said it was part of a growing trend towards using the internet to create and distribute music.

He joked that even his girlfriend's dog could inspire music using the software, likening the composing process to sitting for a portrait.

"I as a composer would try to get something out of this dog that would give me the chance to turn the dog into music," he said.

"I might listen to the way it breathes, I might touch it and see how it feels, I might listen to its bark, I might look at the rhythm of his running.

Townshend said he hoped members of the site would share their copyrights.

Reuters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070425/wr_nm/townshend_dc_1

So, is this really music composition, or not?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:41 am
by sloop_john_b
Well, it's hard to say without having seen or used the software first-hand, Gary. But for someone like me - who has been studying "music composition" for four years now - it just seems cheap.

Again, i'd like to see or use the software first hand before I pass judgement. The article describes it in painfully vague terms.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:47 am
by atomic_punk
It's not composition, it's filling in the blanks or button-pushing. It's a paint-by-numbers set.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:53 pm
by jwr2
The Who By Numbers

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:04 pm
by winston
Good to see Pete has a girlfriend who has a dog.

It would seem that he likes dogs. So do I. My dogs love music, even mine. Image

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:33 pm
by charlyg
Bobby "Blue" Bland - "I Wouldn't Treat a Dog the Way you Treated Me"

Sorry, I still haven't decided whether my uncanny ability to think of a song for every occasion is a blessing, or a curse!!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:05 pm
by doctorwho
JB, I was hoping you'd see this. From reading some of your other posts, you seem to have a firm grasp on keys/modes/etc. Could a computer 'create' a song based on a finite set of rules based on keys, modes, and whatever other relevant aspects of music theory apply, without the intervention of the human ear? I'm thinking that a certain combination of chords might be good according to theory but would sound 'off' to a human listener.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:12 pm
by sloop_john_b
Well, this would have to be an extremely complicated program - one that just falls short of "knowing what sounds good".

I suppose something could be written with a predetermined set of chord progressions, melodic motifs, and rhythmic motifs for different keys, time signatures, tempos, etc. Which sort of eliminates the need for ANY musical skill, knowledge, ear, or human involvement. Which is sort of where this whole thing loses me.

I feel like non-musical people have already gotten into the composition thing, especially with modern dance/house/techno music, where it's all sequenced on a program like Frooty Loops, without even the need for a keyboard.

How much more dumbed-down can things actually get?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:13 pm
by charlyg
It's not a far leap from Band-In-A-Box now!