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Rickies from the Forrest White years

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:29 pm
by blazer
I guess that the oddball in the Rickenbacker line has to be the 430 series and the 3000 series bass. From the time that Former Fender man Forest White worked for Rickenbacker.

I guess he tried to widen the appeal of Rickenbacker by offering a guitar line with Bolt on necks and simpler electronics.

But now I want to know how these stand up to the 600 series and the 300 series.
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Any love for the most Fender-like Rickies?

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:36 pm
by sloop_john_b
I always found them to be very...boring.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:42 pm
by dale_fortune
These types of Fender style Ricks came out in 1974 when I worked there. Forest White was no longer with the Company to my knowledge. From what I know an Ex Fender employee, Terry Deason and Brian Carman had a lot to do with these designs.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:43 pm
by elysrand
...yaawwwnnn....

Too many Fenders around to get the least bit excited about Yet Another Lookalike Image

Not when the classic Rossmeisl and other shapes are around to outshine and outperform these oddballs by a mile Image

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:04 pm
by jingle_jangle
Not exciting in the least, though a 430 in Mahogany is my lowest-purchase-price Rick (not "Ricky"---he was Lucy's husband) to date, at $325.00 plus postage.

It might not be exciting to look at, but it's very sturdily-made and the sound is hi-gain heaven. Mine has a B5, and was abused for many years by a punk rocker, but keeps on tickin'.

It seems to be a child of the union between a Tele (the square edges) and a pregnant Strat (the silhouette, sorta), filtered through the eyes and ideals of a Bulgarian hydroelectric plant engineer.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:06 pm
by gellkeller
Aesthetics aside, how do they actually play? I have a 230GF and it is an absolute dream to play.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:10 pm
by johnhall
This was most certainly WAS the brainchild of Forest White! And I had no problem to resurrect the basic body shape in subsequent guitars like the System 490 and 200 Series.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:16 pm
by sloop_john_b
I have to say that some of the prototypes, the 220/260, and especially the System 490, with bound bodies, do look MUCH better. I'm not a fan of the natural mahogany (not the prettiest wood IMO) or some of the basic plain bodies.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:43 pm
by jingle_jangle
The mahoganies are supposed to be rarer than the maples in this model...my plan was to bind this puppy and paint it something outrageous, as a bit of dressing does the shape a world of good, as some of the later 200 series prototypes show.

Oh, how does it play? You're referring to the neck, I suppose. It does feel like a bolt-neck guitar, and not like a Rickenbacker. And at least on mine, the neck feels about like a Tele or Strat, generally speaking.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:45 pm
by sloop_john_b
Sounds like a cool project, Paul!

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:54 pm
by elysrand
Bulgarian hydroelectric plant engineer.

???? That mental movie is gonna keep me up tonight! ????

I can't really complain, y'know. I just bought a nice 260 and a 450/12 myself (numbers 99 and 100 in the collection so far). I believe in Equal Opportunity RAS..... Image

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:44 pm
by jwilli
I bought one and gave it to my daughter about 5 years ago. She's 20 now and still loves it. Its Mahogany. I thought about having it finished in Pink but changed my mind, lol. It will stay stock.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:50 pm
by jimk
...yaawwwnnn....

Too many Fenders around to get the least bit excited about Yet Another Lookalike :-(


That's about the way I feel about it, Elys. And truth to tell, one of the biggest reasons I never even half seriously considered plugging in until I discovered Rickenbackers.

JimK

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:40 am
by johnhall
The Mahogany body instruments might have looked somewhat better if they'd used a different species or grade. As it was, it looked like the outhouse door of a tuna clipper. The remainder of that one and only load of wood currently resides in the workbench in my garage.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:57 am
by jingle_jangle
It does resemble that Weed of the Orient, "Phillippine Mahogany" (Lauan), which is bettered in appearance by nearly every other species, including printed woodgrain. Hence my desire to cover it up.