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Intonation on a 3000 (short-scale) bass
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:55 pm
by clarky
Hi all, I have a restored 3000 FG (I posted the pics a few months ago). Problem is the intonation is horrible as I move progressively up the neck so that anything above the 12th fret is pretty much half a tone out. Playing drone type riffs (think She's Lost Control by Joy Division) is so out it makes my toes curl.
Can this simply be solved by playing around with the positioning of the bridge saddles (I have tried tweaking them to no avail but truth is I am incompetent!) or is this simply an issue with short-scale basses that you have to live with.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:16 pm
by aceonbass
Is the intonation sharp as you move up the neck and are all of the strings off? I've found the tailpieces and therefore the bridges to be set too far forward on a couple that I've owned. If the intonation is sharp, peg the tailpiece mounting holes, move the tailpiece back as far as you can without uncovering the mute route and re-drill. You can also flip the saddles around with the top edge of the saddle towards the rear. There are additional things that can be done also, but intonation is as good on a 3000 as any other bass. Just make sure the neck is adjusted with no relief, you're using strings with not more than 160 lbs of tension and set the intonation at the 12th fret with the string fretted and not by the harmonic.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:24 pm
by hen_jin
Dane - someone just told me today that "Rickenbacker recommends no neck relief" and now I see your posting. So is this is a general instruction for all Rick basses?
Thanks,
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:40 pm
by aceonbass
Yes. Because Ricks use two truss rods, it's actually possible and, coupled with the action being set properly at the bridge and nut, will result in an easier playing bass with truer intonation all the way up the neck.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:15 pm
by hen_jin
Thanks. That's one reason they are a pleasure to play.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:27 pm
by clarky
Hi Dane - actually the intonation is flat (so I have to bend the string to get the note!)
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:35 pm
by aceonbass
In that case, the tailpiece needs to be moved forward. Try flipping the saddles around first though.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:42 pm
by clarky
Will do, thx again Dane