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Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:25 pm
by mcd220
Hi Guys- Am getting back to playing music more seriously again, and would LOVE to hear input from you guys on what ya'll are running your guitars through.

I'm looking for basically a bedroom amp; something I can take to "Living room jam sessions", nothing too large or serious at this point. On a tight budget, so looking for the best value per sound quality I can find.

Something that will deliver a good "Byrds jangle"; I'm playing a Ricky Carl Wilson 12 string with the Janglebox enroute. ALSO; what about amps w/onboard modelling vs. an economy multi effects pedal, and what kind of multi effects are good ones for the money??

Les Fradkin mentioned to me, that for recording, he goes straight to the board, with the Janglebox and Vox Tone Lab pedal enroute. This does seem to be the standard for recording Ricky-12's; I believe this is how Roger has done it since at least "Back from Rio"?

But yeah; need something that I can play around on, that's going to sound reasonable. Don't need to make a ton of racket, or fill up Carnegie Hall, etc.

In "Old school terms", something between a Fender Champ, and a Twin Reverb, I'm thinking.

Been out of the loop for so long, there is so much to look at it!

And something that will also do justice for "Six string twang & rock" as well. If I plug in an Epiphone Casino, Tele, ES-335, etc, still get a "Justice" sound.

A good, all-around reasonable, not too large amp.

Don't ask me what I'm playing through right now, as I'm far too embarrassed to tell you.

Thanks in advance,

Christian


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Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:42 pm
by paologregorio
How about a Blackface Deluxe Reverb RI? It's tube, it's Fender, and hit has reverb. Crank the mids and bang!

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:17 pm
by 37012player
I think an important part to answering "which amp" is how loud you want to play. I love the tone I get from a Jangle Box into my Vox AC30TB, but to get the sound I have to crank her up! I want to come home from work and play in the evenings without becoming neighborhood public enemy No 1.

I want a small amp, with low noise, that gives "The early Byrds Tone" at about the same volume as an acoustic dreadnought.

Good luck with the search Chris, and I look forward to following this thread..

Si.....

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:41 am
by doctorwho
I use a Kustom 36 Coupe, a modern 36-watt, all-tube amp with reverb (6L6 power, 12AX7 preamp) ... the folks who used it at the last SoCalCon learned how nice Ricks sound through it. Dealers often have them deeply discounted on eBay, and used ones are even cheaper. One cool feature it has is a "lead boost" (footswitch-controllable) that allows one to give an adjustable-level boost, perfect for those leads that need to cut through the mix.

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:48 am
by karl_teten
Princeton Reverb.

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:17 pm
by jps
Ditto on the PR. I have an early '70s PR that has been totally refurbished and it is a great sounding amp; keep in mind that unlike other silverface Fenders, the PR is still a blackface circuit underneath, so the tone is pure '60s Fender. :D

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:22 pm
by tamborineman
I second the RI Deluxe Reverb, I've owned one for five years and I can't say enough good thinks about this amp. The reverb and tube vibrato are better than the original 60's amps. :D

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:21 pm
by jps
Hank, does the DRRI use a photoresitor type of tremolo or the output tube bias type?

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:52 am
by tamborineman
It' sweet and strong, TUBE.

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:57 pm
by jps
Both use tubes in the circuit but the one with the photoresistor is the 'classic' circuit that Leo ended up liking best for whatever reason, and the varied-bias circuit is an earlier design.

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:05 pm
by kenposurf
set her clean with a janglebox in front..

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:14 am
by tamborineman
Hi Jeff, I can't compare eletronic designs but I can tell you from experiance that the vibrato is much more intense and defined than the original Fender amps of the 60's. I love that RI Deluxe and would some day like to get a RI Super-reverb just for the heck of it. Also I have to tell you I like to ABY the Deluxe with my Marshall Bluesbreaker combo [30 watts 2x12s]. The two together could conquer the world. :)

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:26 am
by wmthor
My SFDR with a JangleBox works well. My Victoria Victoriette (2x10, 6L6s) with the JangleBox works even better.

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:01 pm
by jps
A guitarist I knew back in the late '70s had an original Bluesbreaker! :)

Re: Amps for "Byrds Jangle"

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:39 am
by kenposurf
A bit large for bedroom use but they used dual showmans at one time :D