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Hi, all.

Just curious:
If done by a pro - will adding the two extra screws to the tail piece (to counter tail lift) decrease resale value of an '05 4003?

Thanks!

Good question.

I added the two screws to my black tailpiece after bending it back to shape. It sits on the wood now! The bass had high tension La Bella strings on it for 3 years in the case when I got it. And the black tailpieces seem to be more prone to the lift problem.

oler wrote:Hi, all.

Just curious:
If done by a pro - will adding the two extra screws to the tail piece (to counter tail lift) decrease resale value of an '05 4003?

Thanks!

Only if the buyer is an idiot.

tennis_nick wrote:

oler wrote:Hi, all.

Just curious:
If done by a pro - will adding the two extra screws to the tail piece (to counter tail lift) decrease resale value of an '05 4003?

Thanks!

Only if the buyer is an idiot.

guess i'm an idiot then.

when i am looking to buy, any non-reversible mod decreases the value of an instrument, in my opinion.

I would say tailpiece pullup more adversely effects the value of the bass than 2 extra screws do ...

Only if the buyer is an idiot.

Any non-reversible mod done to a vintage Fender increases its value dramatically, like it or not. Looking at todays insane Ric marked, it reminds me of the VintageFenderMadness.
In this perspective, a two-screw tail piece mod done to a Ric today, might - in a few years time - have the same effect: Radically reduced resale value.

Just a thought.

I don't think it would be too much of a factor.

An 05 4003 is mass produced and would not be seen to be collectible for many years. The functional playing is far more important.

If you were thinking about a 4002, or any other of the collectible 70/80's Ric basses, then it becomes far more relevant.

Andy hit the important point, and I will expand a bit in light of Bryce's post. To a player, it won't matter. To a collector, it will. Do you have an instrument you make money with, or are you making an investment? Not passing judgment, trying to add to the discussion.

oler wrote:Any non-reversible mod done to a vintage Fender increases its value dramatically, like it or not.

That's great news!

oler wrote:
Any non-reversible mod done to a vintage Fender increases its value dramatically, like it or not.

That's great news!

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Ok, DEcreases.

The additional two screws are somewhat reversible mod , as anytime you can switch back to another tailpiece w/o the two screwholes and then the reintroduced tail lift will only show the holes in the wood in the "lethal stage" of it!

Ok, I should have developped, but it was late and I was getting to bed when I saw the post.

With a piece that seems to be as controversial as the Rick 4001/3 tailpiece, If presented the choice between a fully stock one with a more than minimal amount of lift and another one that has had that problem cured (without swapping out parts and such) I'd feel like a fool for taking the all original in hopes that one day it would be worth more.

Le'ts face it... an 05 will never be a big collectors piece like an early 73, or a 1964 325. IF adding the two screws does good to the playability and tone and solves a hunk of other problems on the way, it IS a good thing.

Then again, I buy pieces to play them, not just look at them in their all original condition, so of course, your mileage may vary, but I presented my opinion, since it's the only one I have.

I duno again this is one of those subjective thing I think. If the screws bother you then decrease, if they don't then no impact. I have a '74 4001 I am considering doing it to - the lift seems to be increasing a little (about +3 credit cards high now). I have a '00 4003s5 which has them (from the factory) so both basses' tail pieces would match. Not that either of these bases are super collectable, as long as it was a good job I don't see it as that big of an issue.