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Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:36 pm
by oler
Hi, folks.
I'm sorry if this have been covered before - problem is I can't get the mute pad to reach the G-string on my '05 4003. Well, it can reach it, but then the D is "overmuted". I understand this is a common problem, that the mute pad don't mute the strings evenly. But what's the solution?
Thanks!
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:51 pm
by rickenbrother
Maybe you need to change the foam rubber on the mute bar. You can by a new piece from RIC of you can go to a hardware store and buy a roll of foam rubber.
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:30 pm
by oler
Well, it's only three or so years old..
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:46 pm
by jwr2
bend the metal bar that the mute pad sits on
or just put a bad *** bridge on it so it can be palm muted
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:12 pm
by bassduke49
I recently messed with the mute on one of my basses, and found that in addition to the curvature of the mute plate, the pad is a bit longer than the aperature that it comes up through. You might want to trim off the ends a bit to allow it to better touch the E and G strings.
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:44 pm
by johnallg
bassduke49 wrote:I recently messed with the mute on one of my basses, and found that in addition to the curvature of the mute plate, the pad is a bit longer than the aperature that it comes up through. You might want to trim off the ends a bit to allow it to better touch the E and G strings.
+1
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:42 pm
by rickfan60
it is not exactly a precision device. A little bending and trimming are usually in order on many of them.
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:30 am
by rickaddict
Also check your strings for uneven height. Sometimes you'll find that the string saddles haven't been filed evenly. If they are uneven, use a triangular file to make them even.
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:43 am
by rickaddict
jwr2 wrote:or just put a bad *** bridge on it so it can be palm muted
I LIKE the mechanical mute. I don't play with a pick. If I want a muted sound, I have no other way to mute than the mechanical mute. I can usually get them to work, and when they work, I think they do a good job.
I know Jeff Rath hates the mechanical mute, and most of the time I agree with him...but I just thought I'd put out a rare
positive comment about it.
I LIKE the mute, I LIKE the big clunky tail piece, and I can usually get the bridge/saddles to work well too. They obviously aren't as convenient to intonate and adjust as some of the other bridges on the market, but they are a part of what is so damn cool about my Ricks and a part of why they sound so damn good as well.
LONG LIVE THE MECHANICAL MUTE!!!!

Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:09 pm
by jwr2
You can palm mute and play finger style.
And I was joking about the badass bridge.
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:19 pm
by rickaddict
Maybe you can palm mute and play finger style. I haven't had much luck at it. Maybe my hands are too small or don't bend the right way. I could kinda thumb my notes while I palm mute, but the best option I've found so far is the mechanical mute.
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:06 pm
by jwr2
rickaddict wrote:Maybe you can palm mute and play finger style. I haven't had much luck at it. Maybe my hands are too small or don't bend the right way. I could kinda thumb my notes while I palm mute, but the best option I've found so far is the mechanical mute.
Check out some of the recent video interviews by Geddy. He demonstrates finger playing and palm muting.
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:12 pm
by ben_brown
rickaddict wrote:
I LIKE the mechanical mute. I don't play with a pick. If I want a muted sound, I have no other way to mute than the mechanical mute. I can usually get them to work, and when they work, I think they do a good job.
I know Jeff Rath hates the mechanical mute, and most of the time I agree with him...but I just thought I'd put out a rare
positive comment about it.
I LIKE the mute, I LIKE the big clunky tail piece, and I can usually get the bridge/saddles to work well too. They obviously aren't as convenient to intonate and adjust as some of the other bridges on the market, but they are a part of what is so damn cool about my Ricks and a part of why they sound so damn good as well.
LONG LIVE THE MECHANICAL MUTE!!!!

+1

Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:44 pm
by jetglow1
Jeff, per chance, would you have a link to those interviews?
"Check out some of the recent video interviews by Geddy. He demonstrates finger playing and palm muting."
Re: Uneven muting on 4003s
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:00 pm
by jwr2