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1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:51 pm
by ira_marlowe
I purchased a 1968 360/12 OS S/N HL1725. I really need help. In the Smith book it lists one 360/12-OS, can this Ric be the last 360/12-OS made? It was made in December 1968. If anyone knows Please advise.
Thanks
Ira

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:55 am
by leftybass
Hi Ira, and congrats on your new purchase. While the guitar you have won on ebay is quite rare, I doubt that it is not a one-off for the year 1968. The exact number will probably never be known. I know of another O.S. in Mapleglo, made the same month as yours...last known to be in California. For the moment we can say that it's the only "known" 360/12 O.S. in FG on the Forum from '68... :wink:

The numbers for the late '60s in the back of the Smith book are suspect, while 1967 is not present at all. The collective opinion on the totals posted on later 60's guitars are that they are under by a good bit.

Some of the old-style 12-strings from 1968 were equipped with the converter-comb, another very-rare model.

Not to worry, you've got a great one there! :D

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:52 am
by 8mileshigh
Only 4 numbers away from my Banjoline Ira! December '68 was a good month :D

Congrats!!

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:57 am
by ira_marlowe
leftybass wrote:Hi Ira, and congrats on your new purchase. While the guitar you have won on ebay is quite rare, I doubt that it is not a one-off for the year 1968. The exact number will probably never be known. I know of another O.S. in Mapleglo, made the same month as yours...last known to be in California. For the moment we can say that it's the only "known" 360/12 O.S. in FG on the Forum from '68... :wink:

The numbers for the late '60s in the back of the Smith book are suspect, while 1967 is not present at all. The collective opinion on the totals posted on later 60's guitars are that they are under by a good bit.

Some of the old-style 12-strings from 1968 were equipped with the converter-comb, another very-rare model.

Not to worry, you've got a great one there! :D
Hi John,
Thank you for your reply. Is anyone keeping records that you know of of the S/N's from the missing years? If Smith went through the Ric records I would think that Ric would know what the S/N of that one 360/12 -OS in the Smith book. I will try to find out, maybe Kenny would be able to put some light on this black hole 67-68.

I will be in your neck of the woods next week. My other half has a house in Gaston.

Thank you
Ira

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:02 am
by ira_marlowe
8mileshigh wrote:Only 4 numbers away from my Banjoline Ira! December '68 was a good month :D

Congrats!!
Wow that is close! Is your S/N high or lower? Yep Dec 68 was a very good month

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:26 am
by 8mileshigh
1721 :D

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:04 pm
by leftybass
ira_marlowe wrote:
leftybass wrote:Hi Ira, and congrats on your new purchase. While the guitar you have won on ebay is quite rare, I doubt that it is not a one-off for the year 1968. The exact number will probably never be known. I know of another O.S. in Mapleglo, made the same month as yours...last known to be in California. For the moment we can say that it's the only "known" 360/12 O.S. in FG on the Forum from '68... :wink:

The numbers for the late '60s in the back of the Smith book are suspect, while 1967 is not present at all. The collective opinion on the totals posted on later 60's guitars are that they are under by a good bit.

Some of the old-style 12-strings from 1968 were equipped with the converter-comb, another very-rare model.

Not to worry, you've got a great one there! :D
Hi John,
Thank you for your reply. Is anyone keeping records that you know of of the S/N's from the missing years? If Smith went through the Ric records I would think that Ric would know what the S/N of that one 360/12 -OS in the Smith book. I will try to find out, maybe Kenny would be able to put some light on this black hole 67-68.

I will be in your neck of the woods next week. My other half has a house in Gaston.

Thank you
Ira
I am personally doing a tabulation of 12-strings from 1964, with help from others as well who have data; but I'd say that the best source for finding out what was/is out there is the ever-growing register we have here on the RRF. While not a complete body of work, in time it may give a relatively good stream of data that we can draw some good suppositions from. I quickly scanned the register this morning and for the moment your new guitar is only O.S. 12 from '68 listed. On we go.

IMHO 1967 and 1968 were more than likely banner years at Rickenbacker and there is more out there that what we may think. (Write that book, John Hall...)

The Lake Gaston area is pretty country, haven't been that way in a long time...enjoy! :wink:

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:11 pm
by ira_marlowe
8mileshigh wrote:1721 :D
Hey Graham,
Nice site! I have a 1964 RM 1998 IN Fireglow. I wanted to expend my RM collection but they are very hard to come by.

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:12 pm
by ira_marlowe
Thanks John,
Are you in Columbia SC?
leftybass wrote:
ira_marlowe wrote:
leftybass wrote:Hi Ira, and congrats on your new purchase. While the guitar you have won on ebay is quite rare, I doubt that it is not a one-off for the year 1968. The exact number will probably never be known. I know of another O.S. in Mapleglo, made the same month as yours...last known to be in California. For the moment we can say that it's the only "known" 360/12 O.S. in FG on the Forum from '68... :wink:

The numbers for the late '60s in the back of the Smith book are suspect, while 1967 is not present at all. The collective opinion on the totals posted on later 60's guitars are that they are under by a good bit.

Some of the old-style 12-strings from 1968 were equipped with the converter-comb, another very-rare model.

Not to worry, you've got a great one there! :D
Hi John,
Thank you for your reply. Is anyone keeping records that you know of of the S/N's from the missing years? If Smith went through the Ric records I would think that Ric would know what the S/N of that one 360/12 -OS in the Smith book. I will try to find out, maybe Kenny would be able to put some light on this black hole 67-68.

I will be in your neck of the woods next week. My other half has a house in Gaston.

Thank you
Ira
I am personally doing a tabulation of 12-strings from 1964, with help from others as well who have data; but I'd say that the best source for finding out what was/is out there is the ever-growing register we have here on the RRF. While not a complete body of work, in time it may give a relatively good stream of data that we can draw some good suppositions from. I quickly scanned the register this morning and for the moment your new guitar is only O.S. 12 from '68 listed. On we go.

IMHO 1967 and 1968 were more than likely banner years at Rickenbacker and there is more out there that what we may think. (Write that book, John Hall...)

The Lake Gaston area is pretty country, haven't been that way in a long time...enjoy! :wink:

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:22 pm
by jwilli
ira_marlowe wrote:Thanks John,
Are you in Columbia SC?
He's not but I am. :P

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:42 pm
by leftybass
jwilli wrote:
ira_marlowe wrote:Thanks John,
Are you in Columbia SC?
He's not but I am. :P
It's true, I've been to his house. Here's a pic...
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I live in Northern Va., over in the Shenandoah Valley...

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:05 pm
by jwilli
Stop it , John, thats the guest house........ :lol:

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:58 pm
by ira_marlowe
Looks like a place that you can invite one or two friends

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:51 pm
by wints
Congrats Ira!

My 4001 is a Dec 68 FG as well, with a serial number just 41 away from the 360/12.

On the subject of RM's Ira, I know of a very nice 64 1997 that may be for sale.

Re: 1968 360/12 OS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:29 pm
by Top Gun
Congrats Ira…

Here are some various photos of my Blonde 1967 360-12db…

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