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first year of new bridges?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:58 am
by rictified
Does anyone know this, and also know if the old ones will fit a 2006 bass? I know it was sometime in the last ten years, probably within the last five but not sure. I need a new one for my fretless Blueboy, thanks.

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:11 am
by antipodean
rictified wrote:Does anyone know this, and also know if the old ones will fit a 2006 bass? I know it was sometime in the last ten years, probably within the last five but not sure. I need a new one for my fretless Blueboy, thanks.
I thought the last bridge/tailpiece change occured in '73 (disregarding the v63/C64 RI tailpiece and 2000/4004 bridges), or am I just am ignorant doofus? :?

There are several members of my family who will agree with anyone who suggests with the latter! :mrgreen:

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:51 am
by jwr2
I never noticed a change in size but I did notice the Ric 4 string bridge somewhere got a little more like the allparts part in that it got add springs on the screws ... Also I think the allparts saddles are nicer than the real Ric saddles in that they are chrome plated ...

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:08 am
by jingle_jangle
There no question that the bridge/tailpieces shrank in size a tad sometime in the mid-'80s. Occasionally the footprint of a new bridge is not big enough to cover the routing on an older bass.

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:22 pm
by chefothefuture
Paul-
There no question?
Is question too!
New TP come sometime 2000...(me think...)

Sorry, just having some fun with grammar...
:lol:


I did notice that the TP on my 4003BBR was beefier.
There was a recent thread that had photos of the underside of the
newer TPs and it looked like there was more metal(if you can call pot glop that...).

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:01 pm
by jingle_jangle
I am up at 5:30 every day, but generally not alert until 9 or so. You got me!

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:13 pm
by scotty
jingle_jangle wrote:I am up at 5:30 every day, but generally not alert until 9 or so. You got me!
You got me i am up at 9 everyday,but generally not alert till 5.30...

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:24 pm
by rictified
The saddles of the new ones don't fit the old ones they are taller, this happened sometime I think in the early part of this century. They do now have springs in them, this may have happened with the change. The reason I know this is that Paul Yahn tried to fit new saddles to an old bass, he said they were taller and the screws would not screw into them, he didn't know this until he tried to do it. Incidentally I'm talking about the bridge not the whole tailpiece, I think at least one of you may have them confused.

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:11 pm
by simer4001
jingle_jangle wrote:I am up at 5:30 every day, but generally not alert until 9 or so. You got me!
There's a 5:30 am?

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:22 pm
by rickaddict
rictified wrote:The saddles of the new ones don't fit the old ones they are taller, this happened sometime I think in the early part of this century. They do now have springs in them, this may have happened with the change. The reason I know this is that Paul Yahn tried to fit new saddles to an old bass, he said they were taller and the screws would not screw into them, he didn't know this until he tried to do it. Incidentally I'm talking about the bridge not the whole tailpiece, I think at least one of you may have them confused.
The new saddles don't fit the new bridges either, Bob. I have a 100% stock 2006 4003 with saddles that sit too high off the bridge and rock back and forth. And I've seen it on plenty of other recent 4003's. My 2003 C64S does not have this problem, FWIW.

I don't think the bridges have changed. The new saddles however, don't seem to have the same height from the screw hole or the same radius of the old saddles.

:(

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:27 pm
by rickaddict
rictified wrote:Does anyone know if the old ones will fit a 2006 bass?
Yes, any of the 4001/4003 bridges from mid-1973 and on will fit your 2006 tail piece.

And I speak from experience.

8)

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:46 pm
by rictified
rickaddict wrote:
rictified wrote:The saddles of the new ones don't fit the old ones they are taller, this happened sometime I think in the early part of this century. They do now have springs in them, this may have happened with the change. The reason I know this is that Paul Yahn tried to fit new saddles to an old bass, he said they were taller and the screws would not screw into them, he didn't know this until he tried to do it. Incidentally I'm talking about the bridge not the whole tailpiece, I think at least one of you may have them confused.
The new saddles don't fit the new bridges either, Bob. I have a 100% stock 2006 4003 with saddles that sit too high off the bridge and rock back and forth. And I've seen it on plenty of other recent 4003's. My 2003 C64S does not have this problem, FWIW.

I don't think the bridges have changed. The new saddles however, don't seem to have the same height from the screw hole or the same radius of the old saddles.

:(
Yeah Jeff, that's the problem with the D and especially the G saddle, another problem with mine is that not only are the saddles too high the holes where the end of the screw sets into are a little off center on the D and G so they can't even rock back and forth, they're tipped to one side.

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:18 am
by jwr2
You can drill the holes out so they are larger or remove some metal from the saddles with a dremmel tool ...

I fix one or two bridges like that a few years ago ...

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:53 pm
by rickaddict
Or you can watch Ebay for an earlier bridge complete with saddles. I've found a few of 'em NOS without the saddles filed.

I don't know who the supplier is or who keeps getting the part wrong, but its been going on for a few years now.

:(

Re: first year of new bridges?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:19 pm
by VRICKY63
Oh for cryin out loud ! Hipshot and be done with it :twisted: