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Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:24 pm
by sloop_john_b
I've got a '66 360/12 that has no pickups, but I just secured a set of late 50's/early 60's short pole toasters for it. Would a guitar of that era have had short pole or long pole pickups originally?

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:18 pm
by wints
John...

IIRC, the short pole toaster is usually the middle p/up in a 3 p/up set up in these 60's guitars. In the case of just a two pick up guitar both usually have the longer magnets, but of course this is the 60's, so YMMV...

Maybe John S. or John W can chime in... :)

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:27 pm
by leftybass
Chime....

More than likely, a long-pole in the bridge position, short-pole at the neck.

My '64 has two long-poles... :shock:

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:42 pm
by leftybass
John, the routing on the top should be an indicator as to what was in it. A short-pole wouldn't be all the way through the top, the long-poles would be for sure....

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:52 pm
by wints
Thanks John!

Those bass toasters vary too!

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:08 pm
by jps
My '67 4005WB has a short toaster with no routing at all at the neck and long toaster at the bridge with the usual route.

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:36 pm
by teeder
sloop_john_b wrote:I've got a '66 360/12 that has no pickups, but I just secured a set of late 50's/early 60's short pole toasters for it. Would a guitar of that era have had short pole or long pole pickups originally?
John,

I would be very interested in a short pole toaster if you end up with an extra!

Thanks,
Kevin

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:20 pm
by tracy
Out of the 60 or so triple pickup Rics I've looked at, most had long magnets in the bridge position only. Of course, there are always anomalies ......

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:47 am
by jps
sloop_john_b wrote:I've got a '66 360/12 that has no pickups, but I just secured a set of late 50's/early 60's short pole toasters for it. Would a guitar of that era have had short pole or long pole pickups originally?
The '67 330 I just got has a short pole toaster in the neck position.

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:25 am
by collin
My '64 RM1998 has long poles in all three positions....

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:00 am
by walker
Representing the bass anomalies - my '68 4001 has a short pole toaster, but the '64 has a long-pole.

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:45 pm
by wints
It seems there are more "shorties" in the late 60's, compared to earlier. The neck cavities must have been routed slightly shallower at this time...

As ever YMMV...

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:09 pm
by Woodie
wints wrote:It seems there are more "shorties" in the late 60's, compared to earlier. The neck cavities must have been routed slightly shallower at this time...

As ever YMMV...
I'm not sure I understand your comment. Short-pole toasters don't require any routing.

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:40 pm
by xcoyle
I am also confused about long poles, short poles, no poles (no sex ed jokes please)! Are the short poles, the flat bottom neck pickups (or as i call them no poles) that are in the mid-to-late sixties 360, 330, that require no routing (just a wire hole)? I think this requires a nice pictural.

Re: Short Pole Toasters on 60's guitars

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:36 pm
by jps
Woodie wrote:I'm not sure I understand your comment. Short-pole toasters don't require any routing.
Routing was/is still required for basses.