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The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:11 pm
by JakeK
Bought the Kinks "Ultimate Collection" today, and found this pic of Peter Quaife using a RM 1999. The FG looks beautiful! A little disapointed about Dave Davies using the Vox 12-string. I think the 1993/12 or the 360/12 would have suited him better, personally.

Also found this interesting story of why Quaife quit using the RM1999, posted on the main site from our very own Peter McCormack. Thank you Peter for posting a great story :)

http://www.rickresource.com/rrp/quaife.html

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:23 pm
by 1965
He needs to let that bass hang a little lower, doesn't look too comfortable.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:00 pm
by JakeK
You think he's uncomfortable in the pic, check out this vid from the NME Poll show, '65:


Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:35 am
by kiramdear
Thanks for that video! That was really great. Too bad we in America were deprived of the privilege of seeing them live in that early period.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:38 am
by 1965
JakeK wrote:You think he's uncomfortable in the pic, check out this vid from the NME Poll show, '65:
I like to keep the headstock of my guitar below my actual head. Kind of defeats the purpose of that carved-for-comfort upper bout.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:02 pm
by lennon211
1965 wrote:
JakeK wrote:You think he's uncomfortable in the pic, check out this vid from the NME Poll show, '65:
I like to keep the headstock of my guitar below my actual head. Kind of defeats the purpose of that carved-for-comfort upper bout.
It's still not as bad as Bill Wyman.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:00 pm
by paologregorio
It's practically a medallion necklace! a lot of retro rockaibilly/hillbilly/country swing guys do the same thing. It drives me nuts. They also buy their Levis 501s super long on purpose and make cuffs that go halfway up the calf, which was okay back in the day when one lived in the middle of nowhere and had to buy jeans from the local country sotre and they only came in one or two lengths, but c'mon, those days are over!

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:29 pm
by JakeK
lennon211 wrote:
1965 wrote:
JakeK wrote:You think he's uncomfortable in the pic, check out this vid from the NME Poll show, '65:
I like to keep the headstock of my guitar below my actual head. Kind of defeats the purpose of that carved-for-comfort upper bout.
It's still not as bad as Bill Wyman.
He used short-scale basses with the Stones, such as the Fender Mustang and the Gibson EB-0. I guess they suited him better with that (uncomfortable) upright look.

Was "Sunny Afternoon" recorded with the 1999? Quaife's great, growly, grinding bassline sounds like the Horseshoe to me... (then again, I've never played a Ric bass with a horseshoe, let alone even seen a Ric bass in person at all!)

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:04 pm
by lennon211
JakeK wrote:
He used short-scale basses with the Stones, such as the Fender Mustang and the Gibson EB-0. I guess they suited him better with that (uncomfortable) upright look.

Was "Sunny Afternoon" recorded with the 1999? Quaife's great, growly, grinding bassline sounds like the Horseshoe to me... (then again, I've never played a Ric bass with a horseshoe, let alone even seen a Ric bass in person at all!)
I don't think that it was the Ric. In later '65 and '66 he was seen more with a Fender or Gibson. To my ears, it's one of those two and not the Ric. I could be wrong, but to my ears, that's what it is. In this promo clip, it's a Gibson.


Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:05 pm
by kiramdear
Matthew, thanks for that u-tube; that made my day. He should've stuck with the 4001, though, IMHO :lol: Those 60's Gibsons were pretty awful basses by and large, despite their cool looks.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:15 pm
by lennon211
Not a problem. Granted that's only a promo clip, and those aren't exactly authoritative for the actual instruments used in the studio. I agree that some of the '60's era Gibsons sound bad. Not too many people did much good with them save for maybe Chas Chandler and Jack Bruce.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:02 pm
by winston
Our bass player (Lawrie Roberts) in the 60's changed from a Hofner President bass to a Gibson EB3 wired for stereo output. The difference was magical. It sounded very much like a Rickenbacker. I believe that much of what comes out of an amp is up to the player. Our bass player was world class and he played his customised EB3 in much the same manner as The Ox. In short, he was an amazing bass player and his sound was fabulous.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:16 pm
by JakeK
Bill Wyman used the Gibson EB-0 during "Goats Head Soup" and that tour. How ****** does it sound on tracks like "Silver Train" and "Star Star"?

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:21 pm
by winston
There's a huge difference between an EB0 and an EB3 wired for stereo for starters and Bill Wyman is not exactly in the same class as Jack Bruce or The OX.

Re: The Kinks

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:48 pm
by kiramdear
kiramdear wrote: Those 60's Gibsons were pretty awful basses by and large, despite their cool looks.
OK so I tend to generalize. There were some great pieces that came of of that era, of course. I guess I was thinking of the poor EB0 especially. The EB3 was a more viable beast. 'Course if you're Jack Bruce you didn't just pull it out of the store and play it...