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fresh to the rick

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:33 pm
by lars erik
Hi.
I am fresh to rickenbacker myself. and i am very sorry to say ive never tried one :( but where i live there is no stores selling them and i dont know anyone who has one. despite this ive fell in love with rickenbacker. i love the sound of it. and i am hoping to try one out next week. (im going to liverpool) but there is a few things i would like to know, how is the best way to buy one. what is the differences between the model and the year. how much will i be likely to pay for one.
and what is the advantages/disadvantages for having one?
sorry for bothering. but id really like to know.

Lars Erik H. Andreassen

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:09 pm
by kiramdear
Welcome, Lars. You brought your questions to the right place.

Everyone here will tell you that there is nothing like a Rickenbacker. They and I will encourage you to get one as soon as you can. That said, they are very special in feel and in the playing, and not every Rickenbacker is right for every kind of music. There is only one way to know if a Rick will be in your future, and that's to go try one.

You can find information on current models and prices at the Rickenbacker website.
EBay is a good reference for prices and a source of used Ricks, but surprisingly good deals can be found on Craigslist sometimes.
There are member ads posted here under the Rick Marketplace topics, and I highly recommend that you buy from a forum member before a stranger, if you're not able to find a suitable instrument locally. Aside from those ideas, just keep reading the many technical and model-related topics that come up all the time here. You'll be expert in a short time :wink:

I'm sure someone else here can be of more specific help to you. Just hang out, be persistent and if a Rick is what you want I'm sure you'll find a good deal. :D

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:15 pm
by Scastles
Welcome, Lars


What are the advantages and disadvantages, you ask?

The advantages are many. One of the best, if not the best, crafted American guitars. And once you have one, you'll likely want another, and another.

The disadvantages? Is not owning one.

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:14 pm
by antipodean
Welcome Lars!

There's a wealth of information in Rics both here, and as Kira has so kindly pointed out, on the RIC corporate website and forum.

The backbone of the Ric lineup is the 4003, which is essentially a modernised version of the 4001, which was itself a development of the 4000, the original Ric bass. In some ways, the evolution of the 4003 from the 400 is akin to the evolution of the P-bass - some big steps here and there with a bit of tinkering over decades has got us where we are today.

The main features of the 4003 are:

Neck through design (currently with a slim neck profile);
Maple neck and body wings;
Slim body;
Bubinga fingerboard;
Two hot (~13kohm) single coil pickups;
Funky retro housing for the treble pickup (complete with pickup cover);
Retro tailpiece;
Ric-o-sound - the ability to send a seperate signal for each pickup;
Full body and neck binding.

Soundwise, the 4003 is more "scooped" than a P-bass - brighter trebles and strong bass at the expense of mids with both pickups wide open. The pickup configuration gives great sonic versatility - you can really change the tone dramatically by judcious use of the controls and/or pickup switch. As the bass has single-coil pickups, there can be some noise issues. I find the single-coils to give more bight and clarity than humbuckers, so it's a trade off I'm happy with.

In terms of playability, the 4003 has a wonderfully fast neck (kind of like a J-bass, but not as tapered). Some find the treble pickup mount and cover to be a problem in terms of playing fingerstyle, but I've never had an issue.

In terms of looks, the 4003 is a great retro-futuristic beast. I've always felt it looks like a prop from a 1950s sci-fi movie set in 2050.

Reliability - I've never had a problem with my Rics that hasn't been self-inflicted (or tech-inflicted). Others have had issues with the tailpiece. In general, the build quality and hardware are top-notch.

The 4003 is the bargain of the Ric bass line up. Given the current economic circumstances, you may be able to find some great deals if you're patient. You should be able to snag a good used 4003 for USD 1,400 - USD 1,600 (plus shipping, duties and taxes at your end) without trying too hard. You may be able to save $200 or so with a little more effort. New basses will be somewhat more expensive, and this can vary greatly with geographic location.

I hope you get to sample one when you're in Liverpool, then you can judge many of the subjective issues, like tone and playability, for yourself.

In terms of buying, EU dealers (sorry, I'm making the assumption that you live in the EU or nearby) should be taking shipments soon (unless they already have) so there will be decent availability of new stock. For used basses, the first stop will be the "for sale" forum on this site. Then ebay, if you know exactly what you're doing (not for the faint hearted), then US dealers (provided US shipping costs are not too egregious) and Ishibashi in Tokyo (they often have some great 4003s in stock at reasonable prices, and shipping is cheap, though the yen is expensive right now), though you'll pay more at a retailer. To peruse a number of US dealers, check out http://www.gbase.com/. Ishibashi's web site for used stock is: http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/. Type "Rickenbacker" into the field on the left pane under the roman alphabet and you'll see their stock of guitars and basses. An English summary of their policies is here: http://www.ishibashi-music.com/

They have a nice Fireglo 4003S (the "S" variant has no binding, no Ric-o-sound) for USD 1,650.

All the best!

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:46 pm
by kiramdear
Thanks for elaborating so knowledgeably, Evan.

My capsule sense of all things Rickenbacker is slowly but surely expanding by enrichment of our members' expert tutelage. :D

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:56 am
by lars erik
Thanks for the reply! it really helped me!
thanks antipodean! i live in norway. so you dont have to be sorry at all. thx for the help!

the store in my city who sells ricks sais they have waited over two years for a couple of rick basses, and always try to sell me a Jbass instead.
ill check out the sales forum and already checked out E bay.

im really looking forward to liverpool and i hope to find a rick dealer there.

you can check out my band at http://www.myspace.com/mordiband

the recordings are a bit old but they still count.

im really looking forward to getting to know the forum.

Thanks!

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:27 am
by paul_yan
Welcome, Lars.
Good luck scoring your Rick bass soon!

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:36 pm
by teeder
Lars,

I just checked out your tunes and think a Rick would fit right in!

Good luck in your quest and let us know which one you get!

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:46 am
by beatlefreak
Welcome, Lars.

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:49 pm
by ram
Welcome to the forum Lars - I hope there is a Ric in your future very soon!

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:26 am
by doctorwho
Welcome, Lars, and here's hoping that you will be able to find and buy a nice 4003 or 4001!

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:29 am
by rickenbrother
Welcome to he forum, Lars. I hope you find a nice 4001 or 4003 very soon.

Re: fresh to the rick

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:20 am
by lars erik
hi its lars erik.

i returned from liverpool yesterday. when i was there i went to 3 of the big music shops.
Dolphin
dawsons
an another one
none that had rickenbacker basses and they all said that the waiting time for those are around two years.
is this true, where can i try one:P?