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Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:19 pm
by Ric_MEL
Hi Everyone,
I'm brand spankin new to the Ric forum. I have a Tele, and because our old guy garage band covers a lot of Tom Petty, I feel myself being pulled by the gravitational force - toward getting a Ric. I found this forum . and it looks to be a great place. as is the TDPRI !
If someone can give me a brief overview of the different pickups. or even models - or perhaps a FAQ on this.- that would be great.
I see by looking at the Rickenbacker site - models page --
They use a:
" Hi-Gain " pickup spec on: 330, 330/12, 360, 360/12, 620 and 620/12.
" Vintage Reissue on the : 660
and then
" Vintage Single Coil Toaster " on: the 660/12. and looks like special vintage reissues.. ( 325C58JG, type of thing )
Any guidance appreciated.. and hopefully Santa will bring my Ed McMahon award price for Christmas - to help with the Ric fund.
Without ever having touched a Ric ( any model ) .. I seem to be gravitating to the solid body: 620 ( or ? 660) .. and also don't know if I should be thinking 6 string.. for more flexibility.. or 12 string ( or if 12 string is too specialized for someone who can't get 3 of these things... )
Thanks!
MEL
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:23 pm
by JakeK
Welcome, Mark! You'll find a lot of people willing to help you with your problem.
There are many different Rics, I'll cover the current production models:
Standard series hollow bodies, equipped with 24 fret necks and hi-gain pickups:
330
330/12
360
360/12
370/12
Standard series solid bodies, equipped with neck-thru-body construction, 21 fret necks, and high gain pickups
620
620/12
660*
660/12*
*equipped with Vintage Reissue Toaster pickups
Standard Series basses:
4003
4004
Vintage Series: based on the models from the 60s, although not to exact specifications
350V63
381V69
381/12V69
The C Series (no one knows what the C stands for): exact specifications of guitars used by (at the moment) the Beatles
325C58
325C64
360/12C63
4001C64 bass
4001C64S bass
If you're going to go for a Ric, I say you look no further than a hollowbody. A Ric hollowbody is a classic sound that cannot be beaten!
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:29 pm
by ken_j
Welcome to the forum Mark. I would think you would want a Rick with toasters to do Petty. They have that vintage jangle. I like semi hollows, but don't discount a solid body. A 660 is the same basic model as a Tom Petty signature. The high gain is a more aggressive pickup. The foot print of all Rick pickups is the same so you can always swap them out without modding the guitar.
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:54 pm
by Clint
If the Telecaster is your benchmark for tone, you'll be most comfortable with the 620 or the 660. If you're looking for something else, try a 330 or 360. Don't count out a Ric 12 string. They are much more versatile than most people believe.
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:44 pm
by modrock
Hi Mark,
Welcome to the fourm !
I like the vintage toasters, probably because I've never liked the high gains for most of the 60s songs I do. I too am an older guy playing oldies: Beatles, Byrds, Searchers, Turtles. I think Tom Petty is one of the coolest Rick players out there. Yeah, I know he switches between a Tele and a Rick, but I seem to remember him playing an OS ( old style ) 360 ( like the 360/12V64 that George Harrison played ) at half time on last year's Super Bowl. Anway, I play a 360/12V64 and a 355JL ( John Lennon Limited Editon with toaster pups and full scale rather than the 3/4 scale Lennon actually played )
I also play an older Les Paul with humbuckers and find myself fidling with the volume control on my amp when I switch from one guitar to the next ( I put a Seymour Duncan high-output in the bridge on the Les Paul )
I guess it's a matter of preference, but if you're looking for the Petty sound, I'd go with the toaster pups !
Gary in SF North Bay Area

Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:20 pm
by jdogric12
JakeK wrote:The C Series (no one knows what the C stands for)
Untrue.

Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:44 pm
by jimk
jdogric12aolcom wrote:JakeK wrote:The C Series (no one knows what the C stands for)
Untrue.

Ah yes! Some one does. And Some one has a lot of fun keeping his secret,
doesn't he????
JimK
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:50 pm
by cjj
Oh, it's not just
his secret. There are a few others who know as well...

Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:14 pm
by octagon
cjj wrote:Oh, it's not just
his secret. There are a few others who know as well...

This guy knows,but he ain't talkin.

Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:58 pm
by Ric_MEL
Um.... OK.... Is this like the Freemasons... a secret world ?
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:06 pm
by cjj
Uh, yeah, but it's a
LOT more secret...

Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:54 pm
by Ric_MEL
alas.. until I own my Ric .. and learn the handshake... the secrets will remain ... secret

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Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:59 pm
by cjj
Oh, it'll likely remain secret even after you own a Rick...
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:15 pm
by sir_andrew_of_left_coast
Ric_MEL wrote:...or perhaps a FAQ on this.- that would be great.
It's still up!
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/music/guitars/rickenbacker/
See FAQ: 5.11 for the CEO's answer (construction-wise, anyway).
New Hi-Gains (referred to as "modern" in the FAQ) are a little different now, though... screws (adjustable pole pieces), instead of fixed rubber buttons.
Re: Explain Different Rics & Pickups ?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:50 pm
by Ric_MEL
Hey Sir Andrew,
Thanks! Nice FAQ.. I like to try and learn about prospective Gear.. especially since I'll be reading about Rics for some time.. , way more than playing one!
MEL