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the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:07 pm
by brammy
I'm sure this has been talked about but.......
One of the most distinctive things about a Rick is the TRC. Who was the RIC genius who came up with that design?
And what about gold pickguards. Is there a technical spec for that color?.... or is that a big secret?
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:55 pm
by jps
brammy wrote:Who was the RIC genius who came up with that design?
John's mother.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:06 pm
by customxke
I thought Mrs. Hall came up with the logo, but not the TRC shape. As for the gold color, the original gold is a slightly different color than the reissue gold, so something tells me its not a secret formula. Testors model paint gold, believe it or not, was very close to the original shade, but the last can I bought wasn't close.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:55 pm
by bails
I'm not certain there is a such thing as "original gold" colour. As with most things Rickenbacker, I think it varied depending on who was supplying, and what was in stock at the time.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:45 am
by customxke
Agreed. All of my 50s gold guards have a slight green tone though (not oxidation) whereas the reissue plastic looks almost tan next to them.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:01 pm
by brammy
Interesting to hear you say that, as the gold Pickguardian pick guards I put on my 350v63
have a very slight green tinge to them compared to the RIC gold TRC.

- the green tinge doesn't really show up in this pix.
Sorta depends on the light.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:03 pm
by jps
Tony has several shades of gold available, IIRC.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:26 pm
by deaconblues
The newer shade used on the 325c58s is very greenish:
The green is, indeed, due to oxidization of copper flecks in the paint.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:10 pm
by brammy
Well, THAT certainly is pretty greenish! ..... if there is an issue of oxidation turning the color green, why do they use that particular paint? There must be some other paint/ink/stain that retains the gold color over time.
I've been debating whether or not to do something about MY slightly greenish pickguards, but if I received a 325c58 with pickguards looking like that I'd have to send it back. After all....
gold is gold and green is green. (another
DEEP THOUGHT from Brammy!

)
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:14 pm
by customxke
I say not due to oxidation because its completely uniform, and, if you've ever had the pleasure of sweating on a 50s goldtop/es-295, they don't turn "greenish"....they turn green where exposed. Mostly, my assumption was based on the complete uniformity of the color. But it was an assumption...and you know what they say about when you ASSuMe

Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:40 pm
by deaconblues
That bit about goldtop Gibsons is true, but I remember reading somewhere that the Rickenbacker paint oxidizes sometime before or during the application, so it's green when new.
Or something like that...don't quote me!
The other examples of gold PGs here look like the older, yellower, "pre-C" formula.
Re: the plastic thread - TRCs, pickguards, knobs, etc
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:42 pm
by brammy
My completely layman's two cents is this.... it cant be that hard to get a gold looking application on a piece of plastic that stays looking gold.
We are, after all, professionals.