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Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:41 am
by Gashaponcito
Hi, I found a good deal in a Rick but something is bothering me, the nameplate doesn't have the "Made in USA" legend and I've read every single Rick has it, what do you guys think...
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thanks!

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:43 am
by sloop_john_b
Welcome! That is a real Rick, but the nameplate appears to be either a fake, or a very modified vintage-reissue one. I vote fake.

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:47 am
by Gashaponcito
Wow that was quick, I hope it is I've always dreamed for a rick since I knew that a bass is not a guitar :lol:

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:48 am
by rickfan60
Yes indeed that is a real Rick. It appears to be a post '85 4003. The TRC is probably not original to the bass but everything else looks the part. The pickguard is consistent with late 4001's and early 4003's. They may have gone back to parallel knobs by the time that bass was made. I forget when that change occurred though. It is nicely ambered by the way.

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:52 am
by sloop_john_b
rickfan60 wrote:It appears to be a post '85 4003.
Yep, made in October 1993 (J6)

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:07 am
by rickfan60
Yes, so it is. I could not make out the SN without zooming in. Is the guard correct for that year?

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:09 am
by johnallg
Ted, is that a real TRC?

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:52 am
by rickfan60
It is hard to say. The picture is not clear enough to tell either way. It is apparently plexi so it probably did not come with the bass. Most but certainly not all TRCs show the obligatory "Made In U.S.A" so absence is not an absolute test. It is not centered on the nut very well but that is not unheard of.

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:48 am
by ozover50
Hey, Ted!! How are things, mate? Nice to see you around!

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:20 pm
by vin*tone
rickfan60 wrote:... Most but certainly not all TRCs show the obligatory "Made In U.S.A" so absence is not an absolute test...
Wow Really?
So if the OP wanted to get a replacement raised lettered TRC from Ric he'd probably be OK?

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:45 pm
by thx1955
Looks to be the real thing, and since none of you mentioned, it's a lovely Fireglo !!!

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:57 pm
by rickfan60
ozover50 wrote:Hey, Ted!! How are things, mate? Nice to see you around!

Goin' well Howard! I saw you and Trotty in some vids on You Tube recently. In one you were playing what appeared to be an old Strat and having a great time doing it.

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:59 pm
by rickfan60
vin*tone wrote:
rickfan60 wrote:... Most but certainly not all TRCs show the obligatory "Made In U.S.A" so absence is not an absolute test...
Wow Really?
So if the OP wanted to get a replacement raised lettered TRC from Ric he'd probably be OK?

Getting a new TRC from RIC requires surrendering one (a real one preferably) . You can't just buy one outright.

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:56 pm
by johnallg
rickfan60 wrote:It is hard to say. The picture is not clear enough to tell either way. It is apparently plexi so it probably did not come with the bass. Most but certainly not all TRCs show the obligatory "Made In U.S.A" so absence is not an absolute test. It is not centered on the nut very well but that is not unheard of.
Yeah, after zooming this one, and looking at the one on my 4001 and V63, it looks real but without the Made In USA.

Ted, we've sure missed your expertise and knowledge around this here forum.... :wink:

Re: Is it a fake

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:59 pm
by johnallg
vin*tone wrote:
rickfan60 wrote:... Most but certainly not all TRCs show the obligatory "Made In U.S.A" so absence is not an absolute test...
Wow Really?
So if the OP wanted to get a replacement raised lettered TRC from Ric he'd probably be OK?
But if it were for sure real (as it indeed appears to be) you would not have a problem trading for one with a forumite - the plexis are highly desired.