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Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:01 am
by carr
My recently purchased 620 has a nut which is loose. What kind of glue should I use to fix it in position . Brand names may mean nothing over here .Its the type of glue info I need.
J

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:41 am
by weemac
Make sure everything is clean (remove traces of previous glue) and ensure the nut sits properly and does not wriggle or rock about. Then use superglue... Just a couple of drops in the corner where the fretboard meets the maple part of the neck and press the nut back in with your fingers and hold it in position for about 20 seconds)
Remember... just a few drops.
If you put it in crooked just pop the nut back off (do not lever it up) and cleanup and glue again.
A well fitted nut is essential to the guitars tone.
On guitars that have a slot for the nut I try to use no glue at all but if it slips or wanders, out comes the locktite 401!
Some others use model glue (tarzans grip) or cabnet makers/luthiers glue (Titebond) but I have always found a good quality superglue to work well...
Eden.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:08 am
by ajish4
Nut glue?

Ah, never mind. :lol: :wink:

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:14 am
by weemac
ajish4 wrote:Nut glue?

Ah, never mind. :lol: :wink:
Oh YUK! :o
Eden.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:22 am
by ajish4
weemac wrote:
ajish4 wrote:Nut glue?

Ah, never mind. :lol: :wink:
Oh YUK! :o
Eden.
ahahahahaha, I didn't THINK of it THAT way! :lol:

More like, OW!

I didn't know you could fix them THAT way! :lol:

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:48 am
by rikk
I've used just a little bit of white glue. Just to keep it in place, but not enough to rip the wood out if I ever need to replace or adjust it again.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:54 am
by weemac
rikk wrote:I've used just a little bit of white glue. Just to keep it in place, but not enough to rip the wood out if I ever need to replace or adjust it again.
White glue (PVA) never really dries and can "creep" it also could be seen to dampen the sound.
Why use a quality nut material and then dampen it with some rubbery plastic underneath it?
PVA will work but there are better glues for the job...
Eden.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:49 am
by rickenbrother
I've always used a drop of wood or carpenters glue, which has a yellowish color. Never had a problem.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:58 am
by weemac
rickenbrother wrote:I've always used a drop of wood or carpenters glue, which has a yellowish color. Never had a problem.

That would be the "Titebond" style of glues, Yep, they will work fine!
Eden.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:17 am
by cjj
Since the original poster asked for glue types, not brand names, I'll add a bit of info.

The normal white glue, referred to above as PVA, is a polyvinyl acetate polymer.

The yellow "carpenters wood glue" or Titebond, is usually called aliphatic resin glue. This is also a PVA based glue.

Superglue and Loctite 401 refer to cyanoacrylate adhesives. These are the so-called instant glues.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:25 am
by weemac
:oops: I couldn't remember how to spell the proper names.
Titebond may be related to PVA but at least it does not smell like ground up tennis shoes disolved in vinegar! :lol:
I guess for nasty smells we could start talking about hide glues.....
Eden.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:12 pm
by beatlefreak
weemac wrote:Titebond may be related to PVA but at least it does not smell like ground up tennis shoes disolved in vinegar!
I'm astounded that you should know what that smells like!
I guess for nasty smells we could start talking about hide glues.....
I never hide glue - I forget where I put it...
:wink:

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:37 pm
by weemac
beatlefreak wrote:
weemac wrote:Titebond may be related to PVA but at least it does not smell like ground up tennis shoes disolved in vinegar!
I'm astounded that you should know what that smells like!

Thats how they make PVA glue! Didn't you know that? :mrgreen:

Don't you ever wonder where your old Dunlop Volleys go? :wink:

Eden.

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:59 am
by johnallg
beatlefreak wrote:
weemac wrote:Titebond may be related to PVA but at least it does not smell like ground up tennis shoes disolved in vinegar!
I'm astounded that you should know what that smells like!
I guess for nasty smells we could start talking about hide glues.....
I never hide glue - I forget where I put it...
:wink:
Kris, you're having fun tonight! :lol:

Re: Nut glue

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:33 pm
by jingle_jangle
I seldom use superglue. Too much possibility of damage to the fretboard or finish. You don't need this much grab!

Lots of people, knowingly or unknowingly, play guitars with loose nuts (yuk, yuk, nudge, nudge) and usually don't even notice the difference in sound. Archtop guitar bridges aren't glued down, either, for instance...

The factory uses a couple of dots of yellow (AR) Titebond, and that's good enough for me.