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...on Matchbox and Honey Don't ?

Would it be this one?

I think it was the Tenny.

Like this. The one he got after the Country Gentleman got broken?

kiramdear wrote:Like this. The one he got after the Country Gentleman got broken?

Nah, after that even, he got a 2nd Gent before the Tennessean.

Matchbox - 360/12 OS or Gent 2 (for the rhythm, as John played lead on his '64 325/6)
Honey Don't - Tenny

I love it. You guys are so sharp

Ibelieve it was the Tenny on both songs. Matchbox was recorded on June 1st, 1964, the same day as I'll Cry Instead, Slow Down and I'll Be Back. As George didn't use the twelve string on any of these other recordings, it's doubtful he used it on Matchbox. Besides, it doesn't sound like a twelve. George acquired the Tenny during the Beatles' 63-64 Christmas shows, and used it a lot for recordings in 1964 and 1965.

Matchbox
to me: George played his new 12string and John played his new 325/Miami.
John played the *Carl Perkins part" (Intro, rhythm, solo), George played the rhythm figure.
Wolfgang

Since this thread has been dormant for awhile, I would to revive it to ask a broader question about which songs George played a 360/12 on. The thread reminded me of one I once came across that was posted on the Ric company forum back in 2006 in which a member named Matt listed the following songs:

A Hard Day's Night
I Should Have Known Better
If I Fell
Any Time At All
You Can't Do That
Eight Days a Week
Words of Love
Every Little Thing
What You're Doing
Ticket to Ride (tuned down a half-step)
If I Needed Someone
Dizzy Miss Lizzy (sounds like the 360 but may be double-tracked)
I Call Your Name

DId George play the 360/12 on Dizzy Miss Lizzy or was it double tracked? Are there other songs to add to the list?

I listed the songs with the 12 string some years ago, here.
Maybe you can find it in the archives.
It started with Can't buy me love. I forgot What You're doing.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang: I did try the search function here but didn't see a previous list, so posted this one. I'll look again. At Shea, George is playing the Tenny, but was it double tracked in the studio? On the other forum it was said that the 12 was not used on Can't Buy Me Love but a 6 double tracked. What's the view here? There was also a discussion of Nowhere Man having been recorded not with a 12 but with George and John playing the same color (blue, as I recall) Strats together. The surprise for me is how famous the 360/12 became with the Beatles from George having played it on relatively few songs.

James, I found it :
"at Sep 16, 2006 4:43 am

When I received my Danelectro 12 the other day, I listed all 12string songs in order of recording date:

Can't buy me love
You can't do that
I should have known better
If I fell
I call your name
A hard day's night
Matchbox
Any time at all

Eight days a week
Ticket to ride


the second 12string:

If I needed someone
And your bird can sing, Anthology version

right?

p.s. John used his 325/12 on
Every little thing

furher:
06 Oct 2006 01:07 pm
new books, new facts. We forgot "What you're doing".
And: the volume pedal guitar on "I need you" is the Rickenbacker 12-string.
(from "Recording the Beatles").
If this is so, then it's probably true for "Yes it is" as well."

now to your other questions:
Nowere man:
Some say it was George and John unison,
other say (with reference to George Harrison himself: he could not remember playing it unison with John) it was double tracked by George.
On the sonic blue Stratocaster(s).
The last notes are not in unison, one guitar slides down to E on the 6th string, the other guitar
(George) waits to play the e-flageolet note on the 1st string, 5th fret.

Dizzy Miss Lizzy:
double tracked Stratocaster.

Wolfgang

morgan wrote:Since this thread has been dormant for awhile, I would to revive it to ask a broader question about which songs George played a 360/12 on. The thread reminded me of one I once came across that was posted on the Ric company forum back in 2006 in which a member named Matt listed the following songs:

A Hard Day's Night
I Should Have Known Better
If I Fell
Any Time At All
You Can't Do That
Eight Days a Week
Words of Love
Every Little Thing
What You're Doing
Ticket to Ride (tuned down a half-step)
If I Needed Someone
Dizzy Miss Lizzy (sounds like the 360 but may be double-tracked)
I Call Your Name

DId George play the 360/12 on Dizzy Miss Lizzy or was it double tracked? Are there other songs to add to the list?

That was one of my early postings when I was still over on that forum. Hope it helped some.