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drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:39 pm
by Mr.Mow
Hey guys.. I did a search but wow.. there is a lot of info on this site.. And some of the threads change direction so quick I came away a little confused..
Direct drop ins for wavy tuners? They exist? Or even something that would fit with very minimal mods?
Cheers
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:57 pm
by rickaddict
I think that'll be a tough one. Some of the Japanese Rickenfakers had fake Grovers, and I'm pretty sure that we have a member here (in Portugal I believe!) that says they are superior (non-exploding) and the same footprint. But they've got to be pretty close to impossible to find.
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:30 pm
by jaymi
Mr.Mow wrote:Hey guys.. I did a search but wow.. there is a lot of info on this site.. And some of the threads change direction so quick I came away a little confused..
Direct drop ins for wavy tuners? They exist? Or even something that would fit with very minimal mods?
Cheers
Very minimal mods would be the closed back schallers...I have used them many times and they are solid. you will have to make a small hole but it is not that big of a deal unless you just don't like looking at the old holes...

Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:44 pm
by Mr.Mow
jaymi wrote:Mr.Mow wrote:Hey guys.. I did a search but wow.. there is a lot of info on this site.. And some of the threads change direction so quick I came away a little confused..
Direct drop ins for wavy tuners? They exist? Or even something that would fit with very minimal mods?
Cheers
Very minimal mods would be the closed back schallers...I have used them many times and they are solid. you will have to make a small hole but it is not that big of a deal unless you just don't like looking at the old holes...

I'd rather cover the old holes, Its a beater, so function over form you know!! (and I figure someone out there will probably WANT some functioning wavys!)
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:49 pm
by johnallg
Mr.Mow wrote:jaymi wrote:Mr.Mow wrote:Hey guys.. I did a search but wow.. there is a lot of info on this site.. And some of the threads change direction so quick I came away a little confused..
Direct drop ins for wavy tuners? They exist? Or even something that would fit with very minimal mods?
Cheers
Very minimal mods would be the closed back schallers...I have used them many times and they are solid. you will have to make a small hole but it is not that big of a deal unless you just don't like looking at the old holes...

I'd rather cover the old holes, Its a beater, so function over form you know!! (and I figure someone out there will probably WANT some functioning wavys!)
I have a set of the current RIC machines I'd trade ya!

Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:44 pm
by Mr.Mow
OK, can I get a confirmation these are indeed the 'wavy' tuners?.. Why do I ask..? well.. they are on the ricken-faker I picked up.. its a 76-79 (not sure) MIJ copy, its pretty beat up, it will make a great bass to take along to my practice and lessons, seems somewhat sacrilegious to have these tuners on it! (Hence me just wanting something that will drop right in..)
P.S. Just to add.. I've not put them up for sale here or anywhere else.. I'm not looking for offers, I'm not trying to sell them.. just so guys don't get the wrong idea.. Just wanting some advice on replacements..
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:59 pm
by jps
Those appear to be real wavy Grovers on a faker bass, so what you paid for were those tuners.

Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:13 pm
by cjj
They look like the ones on my '84 4003...
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:15 pm
by Mr.Mow
jps wrote:Those appear to be real wavy Grovers on a faker bass, so what you paid for were those tuners.

Actually.. you're not far off.. if I can find some easy to install replacements..!
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:00 am
by inhuien
cjj wrote:They look like the ones on my '84 4003...
That was my very thought.
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:43 pm
by Mr.Mow
So.. are we saying there are NO easy replacements for these grovers?!
I've looked at the spec sheets from Hipshot (theirs almost fit.. except the 'a' string tuner hangs into the top headstock curve by the looks of it), the Schallers which don't seem to fit at all (I mean they fit the post hole, but not much else) Grover who don't have decent specs on their products, Ric don't have specs on their tuners and don't seem to be able to find a definitive 'yes' if they fit properly..
No wonder these damn wavys sell for so much on ebay..
damn.. craziness!!
Look at this.. look how close..

Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:43 pm
by johnallg
Look for faker Grovers and swap them out!
Seriously, what's wrong with the Grovers that you would want to replace them?
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:43 pm
by Mr.Mow
johnallg wrote:Look for faker Grovers and swap them out!
Seriously, what's wrong with the Grovers that you would want to replace them?
Nuthin wrong with them.. Just figure they could probably go to someone with a Ric who may NEED them!!
And I hate the way they feel.. They are in 1 piece at the moment, but I'm sure one day they will fall apart like most of them do!
Actually I'm seeing the Hipshot Ultralites may almost be a drop in (1 small screw hole needed, looks like it would go right between the two bottom holes, so later reversal to original would be covered up), the post size is a little bigger, but only 1mm.. thats probably
almost a press in..
Only catch is they look pretty modern..
Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:48 pm
by ajish4
Just don't do what the previous owner of my 74 did....obviously he couldn't make up his mind.
Funny thing is, when I bought the bass, he STILL had the original wavy Grovers with the bass.
He threw them in for $75.00 and the originals are now back on the bass....now to get the damn headstock refinished...

Re: drop in replacements for Grover 'wavy'
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:02 pm
by Mr.Mow
ajish4 wrote:Just don't do what the previous owner of my 74 did....obviously he couldn't make up his mind.
Funny thing is, when I bought the bass, he STILL had the original wavy Grovers with the bass.
He threw them in for $75.00 and the originals are now back on the bass....now to get the damn headstock refinished...

thats nastee...